some screwups in production or 'they wouldnt get it anyhow'

POSTED BY: GroovyAl
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:59
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GROOVYAL

Friday, April 21, 2006 2:58 PM

You guys probably dont know me well since im not posting here quite often. Still, i love the show and watch it over and over over again... just gotta love it!!!

Anyhow there are some minor things i recongnized and think they just dont seem to fit....

First one is a plot/story thing:

In serenity, the pilot, kaylee gets shot and passes out, than the whole thing with the crate opening and river happens, while lil kaylee is still uncouncious, than a while later, kaylee wakes up, and tells mal not to be mad coz the doc did it all for his sister... no my point is, how she could possibly know that, she spend the whole story in uncounciousness and just woke up... she just couldnt have known it...

the other 2 minor things are just details that became apparent to me by watching lil closer...

1. Thing
again serenity, the pilot, the first time we see inara, when she starts her shuttle to fly towards serenity you see her take the steering-wheel-controller-thing upsidedown... i mean, the scene works anyhow but its just a detail...

2. Thing
and again serenity, the pilot, when wash looses the reavers by doing the ivan and a full burn, you see mal, zoe and wash in the cocpit and they all are happy to have escaped and if you look closer wash has no controller at all in his hand, he just plays to have one... thats a detail i think does not have to be....

i still love the show... its great!!!!

DAVESHAYNE

Friday, April 21, 2006 3:24 PM

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Originally posted by GroovyAl:
no my point is, how she could possibly know that, she spend the whole story in uncounciousness and just woke up... she just couldnt have known it...

Obviously then that couldn't have been the first time she had regained consciousness. At some earlier point she must have woken up, seen River curled up on the counter, and said something along the lines of, "who she?" - perhaps in mandarin. At which point somebody (probably either Simon or Mal) explained the situation to her. Since we the audience already knew all of that from Simon's speach Joss didn't feel the need to show us that scene.

The other points of yours are actually both mentioned in the commentary for that episode. If you haven't viewed the commentaries yet I urge you to do so. Lots of little questions are answered, a few more questions are asked, and many jocular moments are had.

Oh and howdy and welcome to the board and all. Post or lurk it's all good.

David

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GOR

Friday, April 21, 2006 4:03 PM

That commentary is really funny to listen to when they mention those two screw ups. Check it out, hi-larious stuff ;)

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STUBBS

Friday, April 21, 2006 4:20 PM

when Wash is driving the Mule out of the cargo hold in the Firefly pilot, just as he starts moving down the ramp you can see a stage man run into the background. its a blink-and-you-will-miss-it moment but it is plain to see.

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MER

Friday, April 21, 2006 6:15 PM

You know, I try not to remember or notice the mistakes...it takes me out of the scene if I see it (al la Wash' missing pilot wheel). Lol

RYCE

Friday, April 21, 2006 10:20 PM

Also in Our Mrs Reynolds, you can see a cameraman as Jayne is getting his rainstick.
And in Out of Gas when Mal is introducing Zoe to Serenity in the beginning, the cables on the ground are the camera cables, and keep sliding around.
Interesting note: when SciFi was repeating the episodes over the summer, a lot of these goofs were either fixed or otherwise deleted (at least I didn't see them, and I was sorta looking )

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GROOVYAL

Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:24 PM

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Originally posted by daveshayne:

The other points of yours are actually both mentioned in the commentary for that episode. If you haven't viewed the commentaries yet I urge you to do so. Lots of little questions are answered, a few more questions are asked, and many jocular moments are had.

yeah! i checked the comments! funny thing is: when it comes to the wash-not-having-the-wheel-in-his-hands-scene joss says pretty much what i posted in the title... he says something about nobody seeing it...

DAVESHAYNE

Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:30 PM

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Originally posted by GroovyAl:
Quote:
Originally posted by daveshayne:

The other points of yours are actually both mentioned in the commentary for that episode. If you haven't viewed the commentaries yet I urge you to do so. Lots of little questions are answered, a few more questions are asked, and many jocular moments are had.

yeah! i checked the comments! funny thing is: when it comes to the wash-not-having-the-wheel-in-his-hands-scene joss says pretty much what i posted in the title... he says something about nobody seeing it...

Well I never noticed it untill I switched on the commentary. I sometimes don't notice it now if I'm not paying close attention to the picture. I wonder if this is a tribute to Alan's mime technique that he can get us believing that a prop that isn't there is actually there?

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

SIMONB

Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:36 PM

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Originally posted by MER:
You know, I try not to remember or notice the mistakes...it takes me out of the scene if I see it (al la Wash' missing pilot wheel). Lol

Hmm, yeah - same here

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ELOISA

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:29 PM

Once I've noticed something like that once I have trouble ignoring it in future. I'm absolutely certain that in the first deep flashback in OoG, with Mal and Zoe in the empty cargo bay, the light that's visible behind one of them at one point is part of the show's lighting rig rather than something that can possibly be explained away as shipyard equipment. I can't see that bit now without zeroing in on the light instead of on the actors.

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