Some thoughts about buying the DVDs only from Amazon...
POSTED BY: 11thHour
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 17:51
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Originally posted by Kovenant:
Im giving all my current DVDs to my kid brother and am restocking on 23. Im going to buy one of each type of Serenity and then the Firefly box set. After all, I can just give out the extras as gifts later on.
That's the beauty of keeping DVDs on hand for gifts... they don't need refrigeration and stay fresh FOREVER!
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I don't think we should ALL purchase from the same retailer. If we do only that retailer will feel the effects and could simply consider it a good day, Nothing more. Now if sales go up all over, Press will sniff around and eventually get wind of what happened.
Agreed. My first inclination is to spread the sales around, the media will notice... especially since fans are planning all kinds of related promotional events.
But if we do a "one source" deal, then it needs to be Universal.
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Skrew sending word to Universal, How do we get in contact with Joss to tell him of our plans?
Joss has minions who bring him tidings of new rumblings in the 'verse. Plus, his Jossness has been known to lurk message boards...
No worries, Joss will know of this, if he doesn't already that is... heh...
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Hey there.
I havent contributed much or at al to this(Im more worried about the charity screening...yikes :S I hope it can happen...). Anyways just wanted to give out a few thoughts, dont offer any solutions, but things to consider.
I think 11th hous is right in the sense is that if anyone should benefit(besides the independents..)is Universal ,so buying from their website would be best... but then the advantage of Amazon, the sales rank is seen by people...and so if its rising to the top of the charts on the first page, people may notice.... But in terms of negative PR and sentiment that may be more
important.
In terms of Amazon, I think its not day to day changing... .it actually changes over the hours, but its averaged over time...so the DVD will climb the charges slowly and then drop off slowly as the demand increases and decreases. At least I think thats how it works with books.
Now the other things are fears of mine. (they may have been addressed before) I am not trying to discourage...but just somethings popped into me head. First, we have an active online fandom group, but are we large enough? Is there nough of us? The fact is there wasnt high ticket sales forthe movie, because the fandom wasnt big...anbd al lthe online chatter, it felt like the fandom was of a decent size. Now I am scared that we do all this...and then after the day there was barely a blip, b/c the fandom isnt big... Its just a fear of mine.
And in terms of getting Universal to notice... if they are aware beforehand or find out after the day... they may just view it as just an amateurish gimmick. Would they take itseriously? It is true this has to be long term, and even if the sales bump up and there is a dent...I dont think that alone will convince them to green light a sequel. If people expect a sequel to be green lighted by this action, then I think people should think again. However, if this is a way to remind Universal that the fandom is still there... waiting, we aint going anywhere, then it may influence their future decisions(if its even in a slightly positive way then i would consider it mission accomplised). It may even convince them to release a suped up specia ledition (for R1 I hope).
Anyways, didnt want to be party pooper.. it sounds like a great plan and kaele et al. are doign a great jpob. I just hope people are not expecting a sequel to come out of this, but a show of fait hand goodwill to Universal that we are still here , care and we are not going away.
Prakash
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In terms of getting Joss invovled... I think people have already said that Joss should not be anyway involved. He will find out about it and be pleased... but it has been mentioned that if Universal feels that Joss is in control or directly associated with this"army" or "crew", they may be really pissed off. This has to be a fan only thing.....
Prakash
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What we need is a new poll, See which way people would prefer to buy their Firefly/Serenity DVDs. BTW do they sell Serenity in VHS format? 
Oh, And I don't have any CD's yet, Anyone know if theirs a Soundtrack or (and preferably) an Original Movie Score?
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Originally posted by kurya:
Now the other things are fears of mine. (they may have been addressed before) I am not trying to discourage...but just somethings popped into me head. First, we have an active online fandom group, but are we large enough? Is there nough of us? The fact is there wasnt high ticket sales forthe movie, because the fandom wasnt big...anbd al lthe online chatter, it felt like the fandom was of a decent size. Now I am scared that we do all this...and then after the day there was barely a blip, b/c the fandom isnt big... Its just a fear of mine.
An important point... which is why I pointed out on another thread that who we're battling isn't so much Universal to give us more Firefly/Serenity (which sometimes appeared to the tone from some well-intentioned fans.) Rather, we are battling the fact that SO MANY people are still unaware of Firefly and Serenity... tons of people who would be fans if they only knew. It will be the voices, and money, of legions of fans that will get Universal's attention.
So part of this endeavor isn't just getting everyone who already knows about FF/S to buy DVDs on June 23rd, it's also about doing lots, and lots, and lots, and LOTS of promoting to bring Firefly and Serenity to the attention of the general public. A lot of fans are planning screenings and other events which will be great for increasing awareness.
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And in terms of getting Universal to notice... if they are aware beforehand or find out after the day... they may just view it as just an amateurish gimmick. Would they take itseriously?
Universal might possibly view it as an amateurish gimmick... but it's an amateurish gimmick WITH MONEY! This isn't the fans dressing up in Firefly costumes and picketing their headquarters... this will be folks buying their product... they'll LOVE that part.
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It is true this has to be long term, and even if the sales bump up and there is a dent...I dont think that alone will convince them to green light a sequel. If people expect a sequel to be green lighted by this action, then I think people should think again. However, if this is a way to remind Universal that the fandom is still there... waiting, we aint going anywhere, then it may influence their future decisions(if its even in a slightly positive way then i would consider it mission accomplised). It may even convince them to release a suped up specia ledition (for R1 I hope).
This event may not immediately get the wheels in motion to start production on the next incarnation of Firefly. However, it WILL do wonders for increasing FF/S awareness to new fans, throw good faith and money at Universal, and be a big message that we're still holdin'.
This event will bring in new fans and attract media attention. Building our fan base increases the momentum to create a clamor for more Firefly/Serenity.
We may not win this campaign with one big battle, but it's all the successful battles and skirmishes put together that'll get us there.
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Anyways, didnt want to be party pooper.. it sounds like a great plan and kaele et al. are doign a great jpob. I just hope people are not expecting a sequel to come out of this, but a show of fait hand goodwill to Universal that we are still here , care and we are not going away.
Well reasoned, thoughtful, constructive feedback is always a good thing. I'm glad you are adding your thoughts to the mix. It's very tricky to get so many fans to agree on the details of how to conduct the campaign, but we all want the same outcome... more Firefly/Serenity. Let's just keep our heads and remember this is a long term battle where enthusisam and passion are a must, but reason and thinking several steps ahead are just as important.
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I think it's very important to point out that this whole thing could backfire and turn into a total desaster.
If at the end of the day, there'll just be a few hundred DVDs bought and the screenings half attended after we boasted about how big this is gonna be (especially to Universal), we're dead.
If all Browncoats literally put their money where their mouth is and try to pull in as many new people as possible, on the other hand, then we could be making fandom history (- again for those around for round 1, I salute you. ).
So stay focused and stay motivated, guys. 2 months may not be that much to organize a global event, but it's a lot of time to lose motivation or get distracted. Although this is a lame Braveheart rip-off, I'd like to later be able to tell people that I was THERE when that Big Damn Fandom Thing happened back in '06, wanna see the scar?
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Hey
(I just have to say i posted more often on this site today then all the time before :P). Anyways thank you 11th hour for dealing with my concerns. I have read more of the threads(dang there are sooo many!!) and you guys seem quite devoted and not deolusional hehe. I already posted on the browncoats crew thread so kaele and others can see...as long as the goals are realistic(dont expect a sequel to be greenloighted b/c of the campign), then I think this campaign will be something. Plus it will give the newbies something to do...and dang they neeed to be useful! And it could easily involve the rest of the fandom, and helphave a second(third fourth whateva) push for people to poster, to advertise to show friends/relatives to donate to libraries the dvds(and help make Universal money).
Prakash
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Hiya all, I'll be buying dvds from universal on 23rd but really take your point about the supporting of local traders and the chance to create some friendly feeling through telling them a bit about the backing the series and BDM has on the net and how we're promoting sales/rentals on 23rd, giving them posters and talking them into putting them up. Feels like we need to explore this a bit more to get the most from it somehow. Think we should send our Kaylee, Wash and Inara types on this job;-)
Got any more thoughts on this? Putting their store names on a roll call of honour on the site somewhere if they put up the posters and going back later to ask how they did on the day and thanking them?
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Thats an interesting idea. Basically it seems there are various venues & outlets and ways to participate in this campaign, and supporting local vendors is a good thinking. And having Inara types? uhhh that might be a bit expensive.. :P
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I think it's very important to point out that this whole thing could backfire and turn into a total desaster.
If at the end of the day, there'll just be a few hundred DVDs bought and the screenings half attended after we boasted about how big this is gonna be (especially to Universal), we're dead.
No, I don't think this can happen.
WORST CASE Scenario, it'll be a neautral effect.
The sequel WILL get done, if Serenity sells a lot, overall.
If Serenity sells not_so_well, it might still be done if the producers try and bet again on the franchise, this time investing something in promotion.
This "event" may show them how crazy the audience can become over the 'verse, and thus push them a little to the "good" side.
At worst, we'd be ineffective, but have a backfire?! Not possible, imho.
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