Relationship development we would like to see

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BROWNCOATSANDINISTA

Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:31 AM

I would like to see some more of the Jayne/River relations. I think that theirs could be a Big Brother/Little Sister sort of relationship a bit more literally than with Kaylee. Just think - They could go out for a drink, play some cards, kick the crap out of a bunch of people, and then come back...With the stories. It'd thoroughly piss of Simon, something that I loathe to do, but it would be incredibly funny.

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J6NGO1977

Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:45 AM

I just like to see the whole 9 crew as a family develop together and no 2 characters to be focused on. AS for 'More than friend' relationshsips, they should definately not develop past flirting. Inara and Mal should never get together, Simon and Kaylee should never get together (although technically they did 'do it' in Serenity). this is not 'Friends in space' you know .LOL

ELBURRITO

Monday, April 17, 2006 7:35 AM

I personally adore all Kaylee/Wash hanging-outage. The dump trawling in Ariel, their ship-walking in HoG ("Everyone knows I'm the funny one."). I would have held out for some more. But I guess I'll never get that.

Also Mal/River ("She understands. She doesn't comprehend.") which I basically got in the BDM. And Inara/River, which seems big sisterly to me ("River, you want something to eat?")

LEESHAJOY

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:44 AM

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Originally posted by elBurrito:
I personally adore all Kaylee/Wash hanging-outage. The dump trawling in Ariel, their ship-walking in HoG ("Everyone knows I'm the funny one."). I would have held out for some more. But I guess I'll never get that.

I second that. I think Wash and Kaylee must have been very close friends, just because they would be the ones left behind to babysit Serenity while everyone else was out whoring and/or thieving. I could see this playing into the next installment of the storyline--Kaylee being left on the ship, commenting how much she misses chatting with Wash, trying to strike up a conversation with River but being put off a bit by her general River-ness...

MRSU

Wednesday, June 7, 2006 5:57 PM

Great thread.

What I would have liked to see is more Simon/Book/Inara interaction. They are from the same world, they've all run from it in one way or another - they have a lot in common and would have a lot to talk about.

Book would be (and is in the show) drawn to Simon for several reasons. Mal is his biggest challenge, yes, as Mal has lost faith and himself, in a way.
But Simon is a deep case as well. He certainly has a huge cross to bear and displays, I daresay, some saintly qualities while bearing it. Book acknowleges it in Train Job and tries to help him out (like offering to take care of River in Jamestown, and in other cases). Yes, he admires Simon's selfless sacrifice, but is it really that selfless? Simon does what he does not just for River, but for himself: he can't live without her. His father hits the spot whe he says " I thought River would be lost without her big brother, but I see the opposite is true". So it is selfish as well, in a way, and a bit close to, say, idol worshipping. Simon surely could use some spiritual guidance, as well as help and understanding in general.

Another reason: I rewatched the series 2nd time and realized how much Book would understand about what happened with River and Simon. He probably witnessed similar things during his career. There's a knowing look in his eyes, a recognition, during Simon's monologue in the pilot. And we also have their talk in War Stories, about Shan You and the government and them trying to understand what was done to River. Book might know so much about Alliance inner workings that he might be able to help with advice and practical guidance as well - given a chance.

Book and Jayne I also love: I noticed that Jayne started to hang out with Book after Ariel, and he started to change then. I would love to see more of that process.
And Book/Inara: I don't remember if we have more than their talk in the pilot. Inara helps him to come to terms with what happened then - I think they have more to teach each other.

UPD: Also I agree with those who say that Simon and River's parents are untapped goldmine of drama and mystery.
It is easy to dismiss them as cruel and cold conformists who would sacrifice their children for their social status. But their father shows a deep understanding of Simon, he sums up his son, what defines him as a person, in just two phrases: "I know that your work means much more to you than just a position", and the 2nd one I quoted above, that he is lost without River. He understands his son, but then just pushes him away - maybe it's not that simple?

They can know about what was done with River, and they might want her to become a super-elite top military brass, they just do not realize the cost of it. So they might be in on what is going on in Academy and think that Simon would jeopardize her future and not just his, if he tries to get her out. And they can't tell it to Simon because they are bound by secret or whatever.

Or it could be another thing. I was suprised in the show that feds used all means to get to Simon and River, but not the obvious one: blackmailing them with the lives of their parents. It would be so easy to take parents as hostages and let Simon know that something would happen to them if he doesn't come back. Maybe his father knowingly and publicly severed all ties with Simon so that Simon won't be blackmailed like this? To make his getaway easer? Sadly we will never know..

JOHNTHETHEATREFREAK

Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:18 PM

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Originally posted by j6ngo1977:
this is not 'Friends in space' you know .LOL

I on' think that comment is fair. Even though these people are living on the brink they still have feelings(we're talking here of people).

I would really love more interractions between Inara and River as well. I think there could've been some understanding between them and a good friendship. Think since Simon and Kaylee are of together we're stuck alone.

johnttf

MAL4PREZ

Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:32 PM

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Originally posted by LadyKnight:
Zoe and Inara would be interesting too...the two of them talking about Mal. Now there's a conversation I would not only pay to see...but steal money so I could afford to pay to see.

Did these really interact at all? I can't remember. Anyone got examples?

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SPACEANJL

Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:47 PM

Just a passing conversation when they set up YoSaffBrig in Trash. I'm not sure those two 'get' each other. And I don't think Zoe is too thrilled at the way her commander gets his heart trampled so often.

Props on the Wash/Kaylee idea - someone wrote lovely little fic like that, but I can't recall it.

And I got my own ideas as to why River and Inara might not get on.
It's about six foot tall, brown hair and has a roguish grin.

SpaceAnJL

MAL4PREZ

Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:59 PM

Really, that's the only time they talk?

Thanks for the info, this is something I'm actually very curious about, as it'll play into my fic!

Yay! Research done!

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ZISKER

Wednesday, June 7, 2006 7:20 PM

I can see Simon and Wash having gotten on pretty well - and I do think that River brings out the mile-wide maternal streak in Zoe. I also would've liked to see what happens with River and Badger because he left quite the impression on her.

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