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Saturday, April 1, 2006 9:10 PM

PirateNews,

You post so much material so quickly that it is hard to keep up. I still find it hard to believe that you're serious about most of it.

Now that the Granite threat is debunked, which of your claims shall we research next?

Did I read you wrong, or did you write that Winston Churchill traded soldiers for scientists during Project Paperclip?

Shall I start researching that?

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 9:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:

PirateNews,

Did I read you wrong, or did you write that Winston Churchill traded soldiers for scientists during Project Paperclip?

Shall I start researching that?



Don't reasearch anything. Reading's for geeks. Trust your Gangsta Govt. Go ahead and join the military, after your Vegas vacation sans gas mask.

But if you must:

www.google.com
www.amazon.com

keywords:

"Project Paperclip" and "Nazi" and "POW" and "MIA"

Quote:

SOLDIERS OF MISFORTUNE

by James D. Sanders, Mark A. Sauter, and R. Cort Kirkwood

A secret covenant of the 1945 Yalta agreement provided that the U.S. and Britain would return Soviet citizens residing in the West. In exchange, Stalin promised to return Western soldiers who had been liberated by the Red Army. After the war, American and British authorities breached that agreement by secretly permitting Nazis to remain in the West. Stalin learned about the deception and retaliated by holding 23,500 American and 30,000 British and Commonwealth soldiers captive in the vast Soviet gulag system.

The authors trace the fate of American POWs from the Korean, Vietnam and Cold wars. In the early years of the Cold War, American soldiers and civilians were kidnapped off the streets of Europe and taken to the Soviet Union where they were interrogated and brainwashed, later disappearing into the gulag. Hundreds of Korean War POWs were transferred to China and the Soviet Union during that war. Despite countless denials by American officials, the authors provide new evidence that Vietnam War MIAs were smuggled out of the Asian jungles and taken to live out their lives in Siberian exile.

Soldiers of Misfortune turns history upside down--it documents that every president since World War I1 has lied to the American people about the fate of its fighting men. This book leaves only one unanswered question: How many Americans are still alive in Russia, China and North Korea?

http://geocities.com/snetterton2/Soldiers.html

See also:

"Kiss the Boys Goodbye: How the United States Betrayed Its Own POW'S in Vietnam"
by Monika Jensen-Stevenson



Why are such facts hard to believe? 45-million Americans have been murdered since 1973, when US Supreme Court legalized genocide. Don't you recognize a Civil War when you see one?


www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/evils_in_government.ht
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Now I've got to go to UT Law Library to do research by reading books, in order to survive Gangsta Govt. I apologize to Citizen and Hero for being such a bad slave.

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 9:41 PM

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 10:34 PM

From the quote PirateNews Posted:

"SOLDIERS OF MISFORTUNE

by James D. Sanders, Mark A. Sauter, and R. Cort Kirkwood

A secret covenant of the 1945 Yalta agreement provided that the U.S. and Britain would return Soviet citizens residing in the West. In exchange, Stalin promised to return Western soldiers who had been liberated by the Red Army. After the war, American and British authorities breached that agreement by secretly permitting Nazis to remain in the West. Stalin learned about the deception and retaliated by holding 23,500 American and 30,000 British and Commonwealth soldiers captive in the vast Soviet gulag system."

I find this quote disturbing, and I assume it is fair game because it was posted as evidence.

1) A secret covenant of the 1945 Yalta agreement provided that the U.S. and Britain would return Soviet citizens residing in the West.

Okay. If we accept that a secret covenant existed (why not?) then we must accept that the US and British governments would return Soviet citizens residing in the West. Sounds straightforward.

2) In exchange, Stalin promised to return Western soldiers who had been liberated by the Red Army.

Tit for tat. Sounds good so far. In fact, I'm confused as to why this is a secret covenant. It sounds logical and right. "You give us back our citizens, we give you back your citizens."

3) After the war, American and British authorities breached that agreement by secretly permitting Nazis to remain in the West.

Wha? Nazis aren't Soviet citizens, are they? I mean, they're German, right? So how is this a violation of the 'secret covenant?'

4) Stalin learned about the deception and retaliated by holding 23,500 American and 30,000 British and Commonwealth soldiers captive in the vast Soviet gulag system."

Wow. That's a lot of people. Plus the covenant doesn't even appear to have been breached.


If I take the quoted snippet at face value, it seems to contradict itself. I would assume that either the snippet was poorly or erroneously written and that the full story explains things better... Or that the snippet represents a flawed premise.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 10:40 PM


I'd like to add...


When did the US Supreme Court legalize Genocide? I missed it.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 10:46 PM

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ANTHONYT wrote:

700 tons is probably the yield of the explosive, and not its weight. A 5,000 pound penetrator uses explosive that only weighs 647 pounds. Larger bombs are delivered by cargo plane.



Yes, that's the yield of a NUKE. A conventional bomb is mainly metal - "depleted" uranium that's radioactive for 45-billion years, with gamma, x-ray, beta and deadly alpha particles - since it has to penetrate and fragment. The exploding metal acts as bullets which does most of the killing.

This 700-ton bomb in Vegas is 100% explosive (since a static test of a metal penetrator underground doesn't simulate kinetic energy from 50,000 feet altitude). Either it's 700-tons of TNT (1-million 400-thousand pounds, not very likely), or 700-tons yield for a 750-pound nuke (which is mainly electronics and conventional explosives, and only a few pounds of plutonium).

Since Pentagon admits it will make a "mushroom cloud", even tho its buried underground, it's probably a nuke. If it is testing "penetrator" metals, then those are composed of radiactive DU, which makes the mushroom cloud EXTREMELY deadly - but only for the next 45-billion years.

There's no aircraft strong enough to actually lift a 700-ton bomb. B-52s don't carry 2,800 500-pound bombs (700-tons). Max takeoff weight of a B-52 is is only 244-tons (488,000-lb), including fuel and weight of the empty aircraft. Max loadout for a B-52 is 51 500-pound bombs (25,500-pounds), or 51 750-pound bombs (38,250-pounds).

Why don't you take a trip to Vegas with your radiation detector, and give us your report? Or do your trust the snews media to do that, when their weathermen don't even own radiation detectors? I wonder how many citizens of Vegas will die from the resultant nuke poisoning? If the sheriff had half a brain, he'd send a posse to arrest the base commanders for attempted murder. Vegas is probably just a big lab experiment for Paperclip Nazis.

And look what Bush did to NYC and Orleans...

As for the illegal alien invasion, do a google search for "Operation Garden Plot" (United States Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2), with military use of deadly force against US citizens, with military concentration camps... And you think they'll ignore 50-million illegal alien slaves bitching about high taxes, low wages and no legal rights?
www.uhuh.com/control/garden.htm

Shit, Uncle Scam NUKES its own citizens! You think it gives a damn about criminal invaders?

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 10:58 PM

Out of curiosity weren't we allied with Russia?

What was Russia doing with Allied POWs? Unless they were from the German occupied territories.



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Saturday, April 1, 2006 11:00 PM

TNT is not a great explosive by modern standards. To produce an explosion equivalent to 700 tons of TNT does not require 700 tons or a powerful modern binary explosive.

Nothing "nuclear" about a mushroom cloud, any explosion that sucks up enough dust or smoke will make one.

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:

Out of curiosity weren't we allied with Russia?

What was Russia doing with Allied POWs? Unless they were from the German occupied territories.



The bogus Cold War started the day WW2 ended. If not before. Commie Russia "liberated" Poland, then made every liberated person a prisoner/slave, including Allied POWs. Except for the POWs smart enough to escape the camps when the Nazis fled, instead of waiting for a free ride from Uncle Scam.

My uncle was in a Nazi POW camp in Poland when the war ended, and only escaped the Commies because his camp was near a Nazi airbase, and an Allied airlift rescued 10,000 POWs from that camp in only 3 days, before the Russian "liberators" arrived. He was based at RAF Snetterton Heath, in East Angliashire, UK, where I drove my first motor race at Snetterton Circuit. It has a cool museum at Eccles Hall School. The 1,000-year-old church nearby has a stained glass window funded by the Americans based there in WW2. You can probably still see the painting I commissioned of his last flight, on the wall at the Little Chef restaurant, north of Attleborough, beside snetterton:
www.geocities.com/snetterton_b17_pow_mia

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by PirateNews:
The bogus Cold War started the day WW2 ended. If not before.


No shit. Why do you think America dropped the bombs on Japan? Partly as a big show of force to keep the Russians in line.

Worked real well.



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