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Saturday, April 1, 2006 11:15 PM

"TNT is not a great explosive by modern standards. To produce an explosion equivalent to 700 tons of TNT does not require 700 tons or a powerful modern binary explosive.

Nothing "nuclear" about a mushroom cloud, any explosion that sucks up enough dust or smoke will make one."


I agree here. Sorry, PirateNews. Plus you weren't paying attention. The military is doing above-ground and below ground tests. The one that will provide our mushroom cloud is an above ground test.

And it should be possible to provide a 700 Ton (TNT equiv) explosion with a 100-120 Ton bomb. Said bomb could be dropped from a cargo plane, like the famed 'daisy cutters.'

Finally, PirateNews, since you seem to think radioactive granite is so bad for us... I was wondering where you get the potassium from in your diet. Lots of people eat bannannas, the radioactive fruit.

Radiation doesn't equal radiation sickness. We're surrounded by it every day.

--Anthony

P.S. If you want to write a convincing 'conspiracy theory' regarding the Nevada test, try this. The government wants to know how effective a tactical nuke would be in XYZ scenario, but testing of nuclear weapons is banned. So they have created a tac-nuke sized conventional explosive so that they can conduct equivelancy tests on various materials. Now THAT argument makes a lot more sense... But of course it's not so insidious.

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 11:27 PM

Like a lot of things Piratenews publishes there is a grain of truth in the center of a pearl of self deception.

During the War the German SS recruited soldiers from German occupied territory. When the Germans invaded the Soviet Union they found plenty of minority groups who viewed this as a liberation, most notably Russian Cosacks many of whom joined the SS and fought for the Germans. At the end of the war any of these men caught by the Western Allies would have been considered prisoners of war by the Geneva conventions. As such the western allies were responsable for their welfare. Theoretically at the end of the war they should have been released in Germany where many were interned and then offered repatriation. In fact the Allies had done a deal that said that soldiers from Allied nations found serving in German units would be forcably repatriated to their home countries. The captured Cossacks were shipped back to Stalin who killed them as traitors to the Soviet Union and shipped their families to Siberia.

I have no idea what the rest of it was about.

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:

Why do you think America dropped the bombs on Japan? Partly as a big show of force to keep the Russians in line.

Worked real well.



To keep the Russian slaves in line, to keep the British slaves in line, and keep the US slaves in line, and all the other slaves in line on the global plantation. Yes it worked very well for the New WORLD Order shadow govt dictatorship.

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"SEIG HEIL MEIN FUHRER MR PRESIDENT!"
"Henry" Kissenger as Dr Strangelove
(Jews built the nuke bombs)
www.whyfiles.org/186ed_teller/2.html

"America's global strategy benefits from the Indian participation in building a New World Order. "
-Zee News, "Kissinger: ''America's global strategy benefits from the Indian (nuclear bomb) participation in building a New World Order," March 21, 2006

"NAFTA is a major stepping stone to the New World Order."
-Sir Heinz "Henry" Kissenger Jewish Knight of the BRITISH Empire, promoting "Free Trade" with Mexico in narcotics and slaves

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or 'promulgated,' that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this 'scenario', individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
-Sir Heinz "Henry" Kissenger Jewish Knight of the BRITISH Empire, during riots in Los Angeles that killed 60 people and $1-billion damages, after copsters were found "not guilty" by a brainwashed jury of sheeple, for beating motorist Rodney King nearly to death, for civil breach of driver license contract for alleged "speeding" down an offramp behind a husband/wife CHips team without RADAR, while driving the World's Slowest Car (Korean Hyndai Excell)

"Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United States to change it's perceptions."
-Sir Heinz "Henry" Kissenger Jewish Knight of the BRITISH Empire, (Bush Jr's 9/11 Commission head, former US Secretary of State in Vietnam Wars, Communist KGP agent, OSS/CIA recruiter of Nazis for Project Paperclip, homosexual rapist of US soldiers) World Affairs Council Press Conference, Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel, April 19, 1994

"American soldiers are dumb animals to be used in the furtherance of 'our' foreign policy.
-Sir Heinz "Henry" Kissenger Jewish Knight of the BRITISH Empire (quoted in the book "Kiss the Boys Goodbye")

"We have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait. (US Secretary of State) James Baker has directed our official spokesmen to emphasize this instruction."
-April Glaspie, US Ambassador to Iraq, videotaped meeting with Saddam Hussein on 7/25/90, New York Times, 9/23/90 (Iraq invaded Kuwait on August 2, 1990)

"What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea - a New World Order, where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind: peace and security, freedom, and the rule of law. We will succeed in the Gulf. And when we do, the world community will have sent an enduring warning to any dictator or despot, present or future, who contemplates outlaw aggression. The world can therefore seize this opportunity to fufill the long-held promise of a New World Order - where brutality will go unrewarded, and aggression will meet collective resistance."
-Sir President George Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire, State of the Union Address 1991, Gulf War #1



Hiding Our War Dead. Italy Publicly Honors Its War Dead, America Hides Its Dead
www.bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=5577


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Saturday, April 1, 2006 11:54 PM

Ahh, he's talking about the Hiwis!



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.

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Sunday, April 2, 2006 12:19 AM


Vegas Vacation - USA nuked 1,050 times by the NWO

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

P.S. If you want to write a convincing 'conspiracy theory' regarding the Nevada test, try this. The government wants to know how effective a tactical nuke would be in XYZ scenario, but testing of nuclear weapons is banned. So they have created a tac-nuke sized conventional explosive so that they can conduct equivelancy tests on various materials. Now THAT argument makes a lot more sense... But of course it's not so insidious.



That's what I said. Sort of. Except for the part about switching TNT for nukes. USA can't even afford to manufacture bullets for Iraq War (we buy them from Israel - 250,000 bullets to kill each Iraqi!). So how can we afford 700-ton conventional bombs? Of yeah, we borrow the counterfeit money from Sir Allan Greenspan Jewish Knight of the British Empire in England, and the private Federal Reserve Bank of Jewish Lord Rothschild in England.

How do you drop a bomb from an aircraft and make it land softly in a tunnel?

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”We also have — are you ready for this — a 700-ton explosively formed charge that we’re going to be putting in a tunnel in Nevada,” he said.
www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=1654792&C=america



They're apparently talking about ONE of many nuke blasts, er, "tests". With a "formed charge" - that's a "shape charge" for penetrating hardened objects. So it's a "nuclear shaped charge", like a monster RPG. And why would you "notify the Russians" if it's NOT a nuke (or multiple nukes)? For an underground bomb to send a mushroom cloud over USA, it HAS to be a nuke.

Crap, most of the radiation will probably settle over my town of Knoxville Tennessee, since we're trapped between 2 mountain ranges, the better to contain nuke blasts from our nuke bomb factries (that rountinely make INTENTIONAL releases of 1,000s of tons of uranium to track it 100 miles downwind in the radioactive food supply).

Guess it's time to use my radiation BS detector. Too bad I didn't have one when I worked in nukes in USAF in UK, where we had ZERO radiation testing. I wish I could afford a greenhouse for my garden this year, to keep the poisonous fallout out of my organic food.


www.socialnerve.org/art/latuff/main.htm

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Sunday, April 2, 2006 1:01 AM

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.Not exactly sure why crossing the border is easy in your estimation.


I didn't say it was easy, I said it was easier then taking a stand and fighting for your rights and needs in your own country

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.And how do they get a free ride off of our struggles? they don't have the rights we earned for ourselves. They don't have the same liberties, or protections we do..


what does that have to do with it, people in many countries don't have the rights we do, and they still stand up and fight, people in this country haven't had rights and still have stood up and fought, take Martin Luther King jr, and the civil rights movement, or Ghandi in India, I don't know what your trying to say, America isn't a perfect country it never has been. That was my whole point= being people have had to stand up and fight for the privilages we have, the government didn't just give it to us, so yes illegal immigrants come here and enjoy the priviliges we have to fight for, without being willing to stand up and fight for their rights in their own country.

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.I agree with some of what you said in your post. You're totally right about there not being such a thing as a job Americans just don't want to do, but there is such a thing as them doig jobs that we don't get paid enough to do. Immigrants are hardly getting a free ride. They are getting exploited. .


Yes they are being exploited, and as an American you ought to not only be concerned about them being exploited,but also recognize that by their very exploitation its allowing us to be exploited for our labor, its great to be compassionate, but like I said Compassion also has to start at home, there is a bigger picture here. It makes me wonder about you, what your education is and what your job or profession is. I notice that its alot easier for people who are already in an established profession to ignore the bigger picture at the detriment to themselves, but what about the many poor Americans who are trying to make ends meet.

Illegal immigrants are driving wages down lack of jobs and fierce compettion for jobs only plays into the hands of business and industry it allows for people to continue to be exploited for their labor, its not just an illegal immigrant issue its an American issue, and our economy is getting worse by the day, our dollar has the potiental to be practically worthless. America is a country that doesn't really make anything anymore, we import just about everything we virtually have no industry here, jobs are being outsourced, we could very well hit a depression as bad as the one in the 1930's ,what if you can no longer aford to be in business? because no one can buy your goods or services, or what if you your company downsizes? or moves overseas or goes belly up, and you can't find a job, what if you find yourself standing in line after your unemployment and savings has ran out? and your willing to take any job at any price to feed your family and keep a roof over their heads. Are you telling me that you can't be exploited. The illegal immigration issue is a chain with many links.. links that directly affect you.

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.I also think armchair quarterbacking when it comes to rising up is a little unfair, and you hardly take into account all of the serendipidous reasons our country became a democracy

In large part, it took educated people with money and a voice, who were willing to stand up to the British Empire, which quite frankly, took them being somewhat insulated from swift british reprisal, while they generated their rebellion. ..



Your view is rather narrow , America isn't the only country that every rose up and took a stand, and you don't have to go that far back for an example, I'm talking about the act of standing up, those were diffrent times, diffrent issues, diffrent conditions and circumstances, are you trying to tell me that there are no educated people in Mexico or anyother south American countries?

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.I have to speculate here, because I'm not an expert on Mexico, but it se

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Sunday, April 2, 2006 1:19 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
PN's opinion doesn't count because ...




I think you guys are trying to easily to dismiss PN with that philosphy, While I don't agree with everything PN says or necessarily likes some of his adjectives.

I realize and understand whats a guy to do when he's being bombarded with so much information

if you must dimiss, the messenger but you shouldn't dismiss the the message out of hand!!

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Sunday, April 2, 2006 2:21 AM

Erm, PN's message is that the omnipotent British Queen, head of the British-Commie-Nazi-Jews, who are responcible for everything that has ever happened in the world, ever, are enslaving the people with the power of British-Commie-Nazi-Jew Flouride Telepathy.

Ignoring for a moment that most of his facts are misconceptions and misunderstandings firmly grounded in a complete lack of understanding of Physics, socio-polotics, History and a myriad of other things the fact that he thinks British-Commie-Nazi-Jews did it (not to mention the fact that he spews rhetoric straight out of the 'Big Book of Nazi Propeganda') is enough for me to dismiss his message.

I've ripped his posts and his facts apart before now, his reply is "You would say that! You're one of them, bah hiss!". I'm not one of them, they don't exist.

The level of delusion that sees a man who can barely tie his own shoe laces as the head of a global conspiracy so intricate, complex and well hidden from the popular view such as the BCNJ is staggering.

I don't care who runs that global over arching conspiracy which you (I use the term generally) are the only one capable of uncovering, whether it's Aliens, British-Commie-Nazi-Jews, School children or the Underpants nomes, you're still a nut. Lets be honest here, if there was any truth in what he says the BCNJ would of off'ed him sometime ago, a couple of dogs, a Shotgun and a security light are hardly going to stop a group that's manipulated the entire Human race since the beginning of time.



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Sunday, April 2, 2006 2:48 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

When did the US Supreme Court legalize Genocide? I missed it.



Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973)
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=410&invo
l=113


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Moloch.
an ancient Phoenician and Ammonite god, to whom children were sacrificed by burning.
-Webster's New World Dictionary




Cannibal Reaver child sacrifice to Molech
Vaccines are made with cancerous fetal tissue
This is a figment of Citizen's imagination
www.antiabortionsigns.com/catalog.html

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"It is so hard to find a good abortionist these days. On June 11, it was career end No. 2 for abortionist Krishna Rajanna, proprietor of the now defunct Affordable Medical and Surgical Services in Kansas City, Kan. Rajanna first got noticed publicly in September 2003 when he called police to investigate alleged employee theft. Detective William Howard of the Kansas City Police Department responded, and was so appalled by what he and his partner found ('I thought I had heard and seen every vile, disgusting crime scene, but was in for a new shock when I started this investigation.') that he contacted the local district attorney plus three state agencies. Topping the list of horrors was an employee's account that she and others witnessed Rajanna 'microwave one of the aborted fetuses and stir it into his lunch,' as Howard recalled earlier this year when testifying before a Kansas House committee. Photos taken of his office and inside his refrigerator show that he kept fetuses in styrofoam cups in that frig along with food and drink. An employee later testified Rajanna took home all contaminated, medical and biohazard waste for residential trash pick-up. Photographs show the toilet was bloody and functioned as a human waste disposal in the literal sense. See for yourself."
-World Net Daily, "Fetus eater loses medical license," June 14, 2005
www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44777
www.kfl.org/PDFS/Rajanna_Biohazard_Area.pdf



45-million aborted Americans since 1973, 300-million murders to go...
For every abortion, an adult must be murdered to balance the pension Ponzi schemes...

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And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones. And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name. And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not: Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people.
-Leviticus 20:1-5, Christian Bible KJV




200,000 dead US troops in Gulf Wars sacrificed for Molech
This is a figment of Citizen's imagination
www.david-sadler.org -- www.gulfwarvets.com
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/200

1.2-million dead Iraqis, 18.8-million to go...

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And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
-Leviticus 18:21-22, Christian Bible KJV




Baby Iraqi Freedom Fighters
This is a figment of Citizen's imagination
www.bradblog.com/archives/00000418.htm

All this genocide is declared legal by the US Supreme Court, Congress and the White House.

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And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as did David his father. Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the a

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Sunday, April 2, 2006 10:55 AM

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And why would you "notify the Russians" if it's NOT a nuke (or multiple nukes)? For an underground bomb to send a mushroom cloud over USA, it HAS to be a nuke.


You would probably notify the russians because of a) seismic shock could be detectable in Russia(who knows? Its possible), or b) a show of force, or c) dont want the russians to think its a real nuke, or maybe even d) they were really high and did it on an impulse ("Dude! Check it out, we got a really, really big bomb! Lets see what happens when I touch this button!")

And as for the mushroom cloud, no, that doesn't mean it's a nuke. The cloud happens when an explosion eats up the air and creates a vacuum. All the debris created by the explosion gets sucked up by the vacuum, and distributed in the shape of a mushroom. Just about any decent explosion will do that under the right conditions. Its simple phisics. Maybe you should look it up sometime.



You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.

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