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It's time.

POSTED BY: Jonus
UPDATED: Monday, March 27, 2006 00:25
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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:05 PM

"To fight for yourselves is right.
But to die in vain is the act of stupid men." - KCC

Violence is not the way. It replicates what it wishes to destroy.- Chrisisall

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:59 PM

And a fruitcake is born.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jonus:
Start boycotting. Oil and whatever else we buy that supports our government and other governments.


Go for it (more oil for me...)

I'd also suggest you boycott everthing else... like food, public utilities, the internet.

I wont throw around buzzwords like treason and sedition. I will note that you probably wont be tracked down and arrested for your treasonous and seditious opinions unless and until you take an unlawful violent action. This is the halmark of our free society. Talk all you want, but if you blow something up or drive while intoxicated guys like me will put you in jail.

And don't go yelling fire in a crowded theater or threatening the President...free speech has its limits too.

H

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:21 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
I will note that you probably wont be tracked down and arrested for your treasonous and seditious opinions unless and until you take an unlawful violent action. This is the halmark of our free society.

I will note that just by being on this board, ALL of us will be virtually tagged and monitered. This is the halmark of our paranoid and Religious Extremist society.

But I agree with you Hero, that if we must act to change things, we must do so within the law.

Not as nutty as you thought, huh? Chrisisall

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:29 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I will note that just by being on this board, ALL of us will be virtually tagged and monitered. This is the halmark of our paranoid and Religious Extremist society.

Not me. I’ll be doing the monitoring. I’ve been implanted to infiltrate and observe the highly dangerous Browncoat organization.




Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:30 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
And a fruitcake is born.


Finn, that is THE briefest assessment of a person, situation or opinion I've ever seen from you. Care to try and talk him down off that bridge rationally? If anyone can do it, you can.

Is 'fruitcake' an ad hominem? Chrisisall

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:31 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I’ll be doing the monitoring. I’ve been implanted to infiltrate and observe the highly dangerous Browncoat organization.



I knew it

Betrayedisall

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:32 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Finn, that is THE briefest assessment of a person, situation or opinion I've ever seen from you. Care to try and talk him down off that bridge rationally? If anyone can do it, you can.

I’m just going to wait for him to jump. The rest sounds like too much work.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:59 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
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saving your country from itself isn't treason


Actually technically it is.

Advocating the overthrow of your goverment through violence or knowingly aided and abetting her enemies in their attempt to do harm.




I believe the founding fathers disagree with you Dreamtrove.

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


Given the American history of violent revolution I don't think your statement holds water.
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But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security


Hmm, "throw off" doesn't sound like voting somebody out of office to me. WWGWD? What Would George Washington Do?

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:53 PM

Nuts.... now I'm craving fruitcake.

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