I don't Care What You Believe...Just Believe.

POSTED BY: RiveR6213
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HARDCORE

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:12 AM

River, I understand your hostility. I felt the same way as you do before I accepted Christ into my heart.

I'm not going to convince you myself. All I can do is plant a seed and let God work with you. There will come a time in your life when you will call out, and God will be waiting with open arms.

This goes to anyone else who feels as River does. I'm not condemning you. You don't need condemnation, you need the liberating love of Christ in your lives.

Again, I offer my ear(or eyes, dependant upon how you wish to contact me) to help you in any way I can.

BELLOBARD

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:51 AM

I am a Christian, but what is sad to me is that it sounds like you have only experienced the evangelists.

There are many like I am who don't think you have to convert people. But it is through controversy that one's opinions come to light. So unless you ask the next nice person you meet if they are a Christian, you may never meet a 'tolerant' Christian.

As for me, I believe what I believe. But I accept all faiths. I accept that love is the ultimate. And if that means homosexual love, so be it.

I may not agree with everything that happens in the world. And I may quietly judge some things that piss me off too, but I will never try to "convert" you. It's your choice and your old enough to think for yourself. And Christ said the same.

As for Shepherd, I believe he was the same. Just as falliable as the fundamentalists and atheiests. He is afterall human. No one, no matter what your faith, is perfect.

Shepherd understands that belief in something is the most important thing. And it doesn't have to be religious. Just believe and Accept that others will differ in their beliefs... and that includes in how they share their beliefs. Just accept it and the world will be a brighter place.

Unless you purposefully just want to piss people off which sounds more to the point. So have fun!

ZAKNRFAMA

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:54 AM

I don't believe in any religion, but this quote really explains half of my personal moral code. I was actually shocked to see somebody else say it, but it's really true. You could believe the world was created by sausages, I don't care, just don't let anybody tell you otherwise. It's not ignorance, it's sticking to your guns.

RIVER6213

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:21 AM

You all sound like nice people, but is the room titled "Christians Chat line?" What the frak are you all doing here? What is this? You are raping my thread. Its been highjacked!!!! Is this a joke? Where are all the rational, reasonable people who have, and live their lives by way of common sense? Where are their ideas? Why must the Ben Hur, I Dream of Genie crowd have to take point in all of this?

You Christian people, listen up!!!! I would follow Satan himself at this point if I could get what I wanted okay? You guys can leave now. The door is over there, and don't let it hit you on the way out.

jeezzzuss!!!

River

HARDCORE

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:01 AM

We have the right to speak, just as you do.

I'm sorry we don't agree on this.

RIVER6213

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:21 AM

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Originally posted by Hardcore:
We have the right to speak, just as you do.

I'm sorry we don't agree on this.

Yes, I suppose you do have the right to speak your garbage you bible-thumping creepoid. Well, go ahead and hijack away this thread Christian boy. This is the last post I'll make in this thread so you and your fellow Christian friends can hold your self-righteous prayer meetings here.
I'll make a new thread elsewhere. You Christians always ruin everything thats good.

River

*The fleet sets course for new horizons*

ROCKETJOCK

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:47 AM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
I have never met a Christian who reflected God's love...not ever.

Whew. I feel sorry for you. I'll admit, the number of good, loving, wise Christians is small compared to the number of fools, bigots, and self-serving egoists who call themselves "Christian" without the slightest understanding of what the Nazarine taught, but to have gone through an entire lifetime without once encountering one is a serious statistical anomaly.

For the record, I'm a Pagan, and I've run across my share of professed "Christians" who stand for everything the Son of Man preached against.

But I've also met people who've "gotten it"; who judge themselves before they judge others, who are more concerned with living in a state of grace than in forcing others to follow a set path.

They're exactly the kind of people a virtuous Pagan can call friend. And there are more of them out there than you might realize.

"All through history the great religious philosophers and prophets have pointed towards a dream, and said "This is the way we should travel." "This is the direction we should face."; and immediately very great fools have looked at where they have pointed and said "Look--It's a finger! A glorious, wonderful, sacred finger! Let us worship this finger!" -- Attributed to Jean-Luc Picard

RAT

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:58 AM

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Originally posted by Righteous9:
Book is the type of man who accepts a prostitute into his heart without feeling the need to convert her or cleanse her of sin. More than that, he confides in her his fears and doubts, and even looks to her for some guidance(1st episode).

I think, when he says that he brings "the message to those who need hearing it," that he really means to those who have nothing to hold onto, who have nothing to believe in. He's not overly concerned with people who have meaning already.

Many a time when people find out I'm a Christian they'll apologize for using profanity or doing something else they think I'll find offensive, I just tell them that as a none Christian, the fact that they cuss is truly the least of their problems.

I suspect Book thinks the same way!

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RAT

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:18 AM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
This is a thread dedicated to people like Rat who is totally in love with Satan and want to be one of his minions.

*Gasp* You edited without an edit tag! That's a big faux pas!

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MOSS

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by RocketJock:
Quote:
Originally posted by RiveR6213:
I have never met a Christian who reflected God's love...not ever.

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But I've also met people who've "gotten it"; who judge themselves before they judge others, who are more concerned with living in a state of grace than in forcing others to follow a set path.

They're exactly the kind of people a virtuous Pagan can call friend. And there are more of them out there than you might realize.

You have put into words my thoughts exactly.

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