Return of the Jedi by Joss Whedon

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UPDATED: Saturday, March 18, 2006 16:41
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STILLTHEREWAITING

Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:24 PM

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That strikes me as highly unlikely considering that there was a run of official movie posters done with the Revenge title. They do rather well at auctions.

No kidding. I saw one at a movie memorobelia shop last month, with a $500 price tag.

Gotta be careful though. It's supposedly one of the most forged one-sheets out there.

Laugh while you can, monkey-boy.

If I were you, I'd run!
If you were me, you'd be good-looking

STORYMARK

Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:38 PM

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That strikes me as highly unlikely considering that there was a run of official movie posters done with the Revenge title. They do rather well at auctions.

No kidding. I saw one at a movie memorobelia shop last month, with a $500 price tag.

Gotta be careful though. It's supposedly one of the most forged one-sheets out there.

Laugh while you can, monkey-boy.

If I were you, I'd run!
If you were me, you'd be good-looking

No worries there, I don't have the cash either way.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

INDIANABANZAI

Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by MightyRoar:
I heard in interview with Lucas, where he said that he intentionally leaked the title "Revenge ..." to dupe manufacturers of non-official merchandise to have the wrong name on them. Then when the film was released, he came up with the whole "well, revenge isn't really a jedi trait" thing

*looks at the 'Revenge of the Jedi' patch received from the official fan club, lo these many years ago*

Hmph.

Personally I like the story that the original title for Star Trek II was supposed to be 'The Vengance of Khan', but then changed to 'The Wrath of Khan' because of Lucas revealing the title of Episode VI. Paramount supposedly didn't want their franchise film to have a similar title.

LEGOLAD

Friday, March 17, 2006 4:35 AM

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Originally posted by SadLittleKing:
I thought Jedi was good. I think the only things Joss would change is making the Ewoks menacing rather than cute and he'd actually kill some characters.

Well, then, maybe it's just me who feels let down by Jedi. But I don't know; Empire Strikes Back is probably one of my favourite movies of all time, and I just felt like Jedi cheapened the story by having everything resolved by a bunch of furry muppets.

And personally, I always wanted to see Luke and Vader join forces (ahem; pun may be intended) and fight the Emperor together; the Emperor's death in the film seemed way too simple and contrived for such a powerful character. You could still have Vader die in the course of the battle, although hopefully he wouldn't look like the same chubby bald guy underneath the mask; wow, did I ever hate that scene.

In terms of what Joss actually said, though, I found the interview I was thinking of: www.infocusmag.com/05augustseptember/whedonuncut.htm
I'll update my original post to include the link. It's fairly long; he discusses pretty much every project he's ever worked on (someone really needs to put his X-Men script on the internet, because I really need to read it) but it's definitely worth a look. Probably the best interview I've seen with him.

"We need a hood ornament."

JUSTANOTHERMUDDER

Friday, March 17, 2006 4:49 AM

The Ewoks should have been Wookies. And Leia should not have turned out to be Luke's sister.
The rest of ROTJ was pretty damn cool. Although, I kinda would have liked it better if Luke had been able to train some of the rebel forces to be Jedi, or Padwan (a stupid word IMO BTW) so that when the final battle takes place on Endor, it's between Storm Troopers (that shouldn't be wearing white in a forest!), Wookies, and a few green Jedi. That would have been sweet. Bit whatever. ROTJ as it was is still better then what GL has turned "ANH" into with his crisis of conscience.

That said, I own an Ewok. He's in my attic right now. I bought it with money I got for Christmas one year along with two Douglas Adams books. Good Christmas. ;)

"Always be yourself. Unless you suck." Joss Whedon

JustAnotherMudder=NYPinTA Goodness.

BELOWZERO

Friday, March 17, 2006 9:06 AM

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I seem to remember reading an interview or listening to a commentary somewhere where Joss had said if he'd done RotJ he'd have killed off Luke & Leia and made the movie about Han.

Don't quote me on that though, I could just be smokin' somethin'.

YEAH!!! Now there is a movie I could watch over and over and over....!!!

"Do not go gentle into that good night....
Rage, rage against the dying of the light. . ."
--Dylan Thomas

Though my soul may set in darkness
It will rise in perfect light.
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night.

CYBERSNARK

Friday, March 17, 2006 3:48 PM

I actually love RotJ exactly as it came out.

The oldest memory I have is watching RotJ on TV, sitting with my dad. I've always associated that movie with fun --the good guys win, the bad guys are defeated, and there's a happy ending. It taught me that sometimes the good guys don't have to die. More character deaths would have made for good drama, but a less satisfying adventure.

And am I the only one on this planet who actually liked the Ewoks?

*dances away*
Yub nub, eecha yub-nub. . .

(Oh, and the droids couldn't have been scrapped: they're the narrators, and Joss does understand the concept of "narrative immunity.")

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MOSS

Friday, March 17, 2006 10:54 PM

The ewoks and the rebel force would have had the S++t kicked out of them (well they were the emperors crack troops), the only people left would have been a few jedi pilots and troops, they would have been captured, eventually set free. A small group of them would have found a freighter, named it Serenity blah blah and then the real story would have begun.

Saying that "Jedi" was a great film.

Ok, who ordered the poo poo platter?

CARTOON

Saturday, March 18, 2006 4:39 AM

ROTJ according to Whedon?

#1) C3PO and R2D2 would've been weaponized, merciless death machines.

#2) Endor would've been occupied by Reavers instead of Ewoks, who would've feasted on Chewbacca shortly after he landed on the Endor moon (which would've reaked with decay and toxic waste -- as a former imperial dumping ground).

#3) Jabba would've disembowelled Han Solo (who never would've actually appeared in the film -- aside from his various organs strung about Jabba's palace), and sent bits of his entrails to other former employees who owed him money. Leia, herself, would've secured one of Han's ears (or something not too large or particularly smelly) as a keepsake, which she would've held over the fat guy's head as she impaled him with a spear and spit in his face. (Luke would've mounted Han's skull on the front of his X-wing as a tribute to his former friend.)

#4) When departing Dagobah, Luke would've left a homing beacon for the nearby Reaver fleet to find, and finish off what the maggots didn't get of Yoda.

#5) The Rancor monster would've torn off one of Luke's arms, eaten it, then used Luke's head as a tissue to plug its runny nose.

#6) Lando would've been packing a chain gun, which he lovingly refered to as "Hannah".

#7) The Emperor would've had blue hands.

#8) Darth Vader would've incessantly babbled nonsensically, then started kicking people backwards around poles whenever the Emperor said "Obi's da' man!"

KAYNA

Saturday, March 18, 2006 4:41 PM

I liked the Ewoks too. A little farther up on this thread, I kind of ranted about why they won. anyway, there are some interesting things on this thread. It's kind of amusing in some cases.

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