Miranda: What's going on?

POSTED BY: TakenBaxter
UPDATED: Thursday, March 23, 2006 07:41
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MISSTRESSAHARA

Thursday, March 2, 2006 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by TakenBaxter:
Ok this may be a little overreaching but i was thinking that maybe Book had some connection to Miranda. I'm not sure on how it would all work out it it was true, but here's what gave me this little idea:
When Kaylee said Shepard Book had said that Reavers are just men that reached the end of space and saw a vast nothingness and went insane.
Well from what i can see from all the maps and starlog things Miranda is the furthest planet out, so it could very well be what he meant by the edge of space.

This is overreaching isn't it.

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Have to correct you here, Mal was the one who said that line, agreeing with Jayne when Jayne said "They ain't men." Book says something along the lines of "Of course they are, perhaps too long removed from society , but still men." and Mal responds "Jayne's right, they aint men. They flew out to the edge of the black where there was nothing and that's what they became." I wish I could remember the exact quotes, I hate miss-quotes.

Shepard Book was responding because of his new teachings and belief. He didn't want to believe there could be no-one who was redeemable (which is why he was on the boat, for Mal's sake than anyone else's.) However, since the movie has seemed to contradict a few things from the show the possibility that Book knew about Miranda, if only the planet and not the Pax would be another mystery to add to an already growing number. So it could be he knew a little of their origin, at the least, knew from the direction the Reaver territory came from that they COULD have come from there. I dunno, as I said, the movie contradicts a few things from the show.

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THENCDUCK

Thursday, March 2, 2006 12:40 AM

Miranda reminded me of another movie that I watched, Equilibrium. Well don’t want to pull the attention off Serenity but the movie was about a society of people that are emotionally repressed. And sadly enough it is supposed to be the perfect society and in actuality they had only created a world of perfect killer

I didn't even think about that, but it does remind me a little bit of Equilibrium (great movie by the way) except they knew about what was happening.

NATVANYA

Thursday, March 2, 2006 4:03 AM

like the dude who like said jock didn't get the concept i think u need help.. no affence and all but see what i beleive she's trying to say is
.... they were trying to drug people so they could control them not experiment on them that was after all an accedent... i mean if realy the aliece was entitaled to experimenting they would have been all over miranda studdying the reavers.... not acting like it was something to hide. they didnt want what happend to happen so then how was it an experiment... it was a basic ploy from a gov to contain and detain its slaves either by choice or by obligation to lies.....

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NOSADSEVEN

Thursday, March 2, 2006 5:15 AM

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Originally posted by Kayna:
It's possible that the PAX was limited in amount. When you're checking reactions to an experimental substance you don't just dump folk in a vat of the stuff and say "enjoy!"
Too much could very easily kill them in horrible ways and then you don't have any real data.
What you do is start with small, measured amounts and then see how they react to that. If, after careful observation, you conclude that nothing is happening, then you give them some more.

"Too much could very easily kill them in horrible ways..."

Umm, isn't that exactly what happened?

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AZBROWNCOAT

Thursday, March 2, 2006 3:52 PM

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:

@AZBrowncoat:
The woman on the ship didn't crash on the planet. From what she said, the Alliance lost contact with the planet and they were sent to find out what happened.

I thought they did. Because the ship was half buried in a building and in the commentary Joss said he should have done more to make it look like the ship had crashed.

Or did I dream up something again.

Either way, this thread has got my mind churning. May have to follow through with a plan for a fic.

You know, they tell ya to never hit a man with a closed fist, but it is, on occasion, hilarious.

SIGMANUNKI

Thursday, March 2, 2006 7:09 PM

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Originally posted by AzBrowncoat:

I thought they did. Because the ship was half buried in a building and in the commentary Joss said he should have done more to make it look like the ship had crashed.

Or did I dream up something again.

Either way, this thread has got my mind churning. May have to follow through with a plan for a fic.

Oh, they did crash. But I imagine that was the reavers work when they were trying to get off planet after they figured things out.

She did say that it was what they thought it was.

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SIGMANUNKI

Thursday, March 2, 2006 7:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nosadseven:

"Too much could very easily kill them in horrible ways..."

Umm, isn't that exactly what happened?

Accident. Not intention.

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-David Suzuki

RAE

Thursday, March 2, 2006 7:34 PM

I remember them saying that the PAX was only an active "virus" (for lack of a better word at the moment) for a limited time. I just figured the search and rescue people got there after it was no longer a threat, and so they were not effected.

Rae Y

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FLETCH2

Thursday, March 2, 2006 7:47 PM

If you look at it in Earth terms the Core worlds are like Edwardian Europe, they have all the industry, civilisation and a very ordered society. The border planets are like an Independent east coast USA of that time, there are places like Persephone that are starting to get very "Core" and people are starting to move away from those places to find better opertunities. It's these planets that are starting secondary colonisation of the Rim much like the US pushing west. I suspect at the time of Miranda most Rim worlds are being colonised from the Border planets.

My suspicion is that the Core worlds were initially busy building themselves up. When they started to look out at the 'Verse again they discovered that the Border worlds which had been less advanced neighbours and first generation colonies had "grabbed" a lot of terraformed planets for their own colonisation. Miranda and placed like the Mr Universe planet are the Core's new secondary colonies, bigger brighter and cleaner than the shack city worlds colonists from the Border worlds were building on the Rim.

GORRAMSCOTT

Thursday, March 2, 2006 7:48 PM

I assumed that the Alliance created this core planet on the rim to test out the PAX. If anything went wrong then there wouldn't be anyone there to complain.

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