umm..battlestar?
POSTED BY: terrifried
UPDATED: Saturday, March 25, 2006 20:26
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New BSG. I saw the miniseries, and it wasn't terrible. (Mrs G, being a diehard original fan, refused to look at it.)
Equally, though, it wasn't all that fantastic. What killed it for me was:
- the human-looking cylons. Stupid idea. Was there a chrome shortage or something?
- the same-old same old. Ooh look, an ultra-villain appears week after week and never bloody gets caught. Crow's exit was how it should be.
-nobody appeared to be having a good time. Being all tortured and moody and stuff. And that bleeding president woman. What a moany git. Get over yourself. Where's Sigourney Weaver when you need her.
-dark, mumbly dialogue.
-getting nightmares when I saw the New Cylons. Damn. Somebody is channelling Sky Captain like mad. Same shape robots and the same desperately dull monotonic delivery of lines that made me give up without watching it to the end.
-the Apollo Guy's acting. Black hole of charisma or what? Guest speaker at an Actuaries' Convention. He has stories. Funny and sexy. Oh wait, they're not.
Pardon me, me head appears to have exploded.
G
Hands up! You are surrounded by armed bastards!
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Apollo's acting? I am a huge fan of Jaime Bamber's..I think he does great with the material. Then again, I am a 23 year old who was an obvious Simon fan, so take my adulation for what it's worth. Hot boys + space =happiness.
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When Sci-Fi chan is on a political mission to try and resemble modern-day life with modern-day issues in the middle of a science fiction show, they stop being able to make decent sci-fi. Thx Bonnie Hammer.
In case you weren't aware, the original intention of science fiction is to use fantastical, fictional settings and circumstances to reflect and/or comment on current political and social issues.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Firefly rocks...
battlestar rocks too...
the flamers obviously have too much time on their hands. it's a show. watch it. don't think.
fracking browncoats rock!
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OMG, YES!! I've watched every major scifi TV series for the past thirty years, and this one blows all of them out of the water. It's even better than our beloved FF, although not as funny; but it's better conceived and executed (although FF could easily have beaten it had Fox not killed it untimely). The characters aren't as likeable as our FF family, but they are very very real.
Smart story lines, socially-conscious themes, good writing, top-notch acting--that's what it's all about, isn't it?
"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle. . . ."
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Originally posted by XeroGravity:
It is not a remake of the original show. It's just a sci-fi version of daytime soap operas. But hey, what do I know? I'm just ignorant.
Forget the gay-ass Gaius Baltar in the "re-imagined" BSG2 ... weak-ass boytoy who is sleeping with a Cylon .
I have to ask, which is Gaius? Gay or a boytoy to a female model cylon? Unless of course you were using 'gay' as a slur.
I would have to agree. You are ignorant. And a bigot to boot. Good for you - be multi-talented.
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Ok everybody, work with me here...
Basic synopsis of the show:
(this is the original premise as Glen Larson would have wished it to be... it should be noted that he ~ "the creator" ~ hates the new BSG, and I'm totally with him on this one)
Earth is the long-lost "13th tribe" of humanity. Apparently, many 1000's of years ago, human beings were advanced enough to have space travel. Somehow, chaos erupted and civilization collapsed. All of humanity de-evolved to become primitive and warlike. The 12 major planets fared ok, but the 13th planet (Earth, the most distant) became lost to history among the 12 worlds of BSG. It disappeared into myth. The people of Earth also forgot their roots and what was once the religion of their ancient ancestors is dismissed out of hand. That religion on Earth exists only as Greek mythology with all it's gods ~ Zeus, Apollo, Hera, Poseidon, Hermes, Ares, Nike, Dionysus, Athena, etc. etc.
So there is your basic premise... Earth evolved along a separate track from it's 12 cousins and now those cousins have been annihilated by artificially intelligent robots led by Gaius Baltar ~ note to jackass Knibblet: "Gaius" as in "Gaius Julius Caesar. Baltar was a power-mad psychopath who used the robots to destroy the planets in a bid to conquer his neighbors (like Caesar destroying the Roman Republic and replacing it with an imperial tyranny that ultimately doomed Rome.
Before there was ever "The Terminator", there were cylons. Larson was a fuckin genius. Sadly, the TV executives made him take his original vision for BSG and water it down with unbelievable gayness (like disco-teques in space, and feel-good optimism like you find in children's shows). If Larson had been given a free hand, the original BSG would have been 10X better than Trek.
A strange parallel with the original BSG and Firefly... both were ruined by greedy executives meddling with them, and doomed before they ever had a chance to blossom and grow.
The new BSG is gay as hell. The new Gaius Baltar is effeminant and weak... he doesn't inspire a sense of dread or fear in me. The new "Adama" has a bad actor with no gravitas... am I supposed to believe R.E. Olmos has leadership quality when he slurs his words and his acting has zero passion? And this Pres. Rosalin chick? She looks like a wide-eyed deer caught in the headlights. Oh ya, she's totally believable as leader of a people under siege by maniacal murderous robots. I love the flashbacks where she's education secretary fighting for the rights of underpaid teachers. Just kinda tugs at my heart strings. Oh Jesus my eyes are getting misty. I'm fuckin touched.
The whole storyline of this new show is just too friggin stupid to be believable. Why couldn't they get Larson into the loop and let him call the shots? The show would have been a timeless masterpiece of sci-fi. Nahh... they had to "re-imagine" it... gotta make it a fashionable and hip soap opera (kinda like disco in space was in the 70s).
XG
No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.
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Man. Bitter much Xero?
You don't like the new BSG, we get that. The old BSG would have been great(er) if the networks hadn't meddled, we get that too. But you called my friend a jackass for no good reason, 'cept perhaps she poked fun at you.
I was willing to read to your arguments, even though I disagree with most of them. The way you polarize the issue - something is either the greatest ever, or the absolute worst - is a great attitude for blind polemics, not so much for a discussion among friends.
Let's just watch the namecalling, eh? No, I'm no-one important. No penalty for telling me to go to hell. I'm just a Browncoat, asking for a little civility.
MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."
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Darkjester:
Hmm let's see. Knibblet calls me ignorant and bigoted. Doesn't add any substance to the debate. Just calls me names. So I called her a jackass. Why? Because she's a jackass.
Enter stage left:
You come charging to the rescue (you're so very heroic). There's always your type out there... cloaked in false group-hug humanitarianism ~ can't debate the facts before you gotta step in and announce "let the healing begin." Oh... let's not forget you get your digs in, insult me, and try to couch it in a fakey-ass heartwarming aura of wholesome goodness. I love the subtle insinuation that somehow I've already stated the facts of my case (which I hadn't). Perhaps your debating tact seems smart to you, but I can see you've been mercifully spared the ravages of intelligence. You're an idiot.
I know your type.. you can be found in Starbucks buying $5 cups of coffee (double-tall cafe latte decaf with soymilk), you hang out with alienated nihilists and existentialists (wannabes that run in packs), you have pseudo-intellectual discussions where everyone is categorized as "obtuse" or "bourgeoisie" or "blind polemics".
I have a picture of you in my mind... ponytail, wire-rim glasses, turtleneck, black beret and goatee, probably playing the bongos.
XG
No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.
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Who was it said "give 'em enough rope...."?
I thought you called yourself ignorant, she was agreeing with you.
Calling someone names adds nothing to the argument, therefore you call them names. I ask for some civility, so you call me names. Do I see a pattern here?
MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."
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