umm..battlestar?
POSTED BY: terrifried
UPDATED: Saturday, March 25, 2006 20:26
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Does anyone here remember the origonal Battlestar Galactica? I know it is pretty dated compared to todays tv, but it had the humor that the new one doesn't. I admit that it wasn't "gritty". No tv from the early eighties was, though. Since it was cancelled after one season, (do I see a pattern here, hmmm?) we didn't get the chance for characture development. I think the networks were more controlling then and trusted action over substance. They are not much better now, but a few shows like Firefly and V. Mars are proof that when the network steps back and the writers and directors are allowed to do their work, we get something wonderful.
I am sorry for any spelling errors, I'm sick, it's late and I'm to lazy to check right now.
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LOL I am old enough to remember the original and there was more humor.. I remember that the tour at Universal Studios used to have "Cylons" (the old model) who were pretty scary (at the time) and said "By your command" all the time...lol scared the bejeezus out of the little kids!!
I remember too when the Gallacticas finally got to Earth and saw the traffic on the LA freeway.. they were impressed that these "ships" were able to go in such great lengthy "formations".. it was funny...
I still prefer the humor and humanity of Firefly... but I do thinks the new BSG is pretty good and I like all the actors.. they do a great job.
Chindi
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The old series was a piece of shit. The man who wrote it was forced to make a made-for-TV version of star wars. He had great ideas but had to tone them down and produce generic fodder for public consumption.
The great strength of the original BSG was the fact that "the creator" of the show had creative control over the special effects. Cylons were the coolest chrome-ified robot enemies ever, led by Gaius Baltar who destroyed 12 whole planets right off the bat. Forget the gay-ass Gaius Baltar in the "re-imagined" BSG2. The original was evil incarnate, an "in-your-face" bad guy. In the new BSG, Gaius is a weak-ass boytoy who is sleeping with a Cylon (but hey, it's been re-imagined).
Bonnie Hammer took over Sci-fi chan. Her influence is felt in this show. It's been "re-imagined". Did you know you aren't allowed to talk about this shit in the "official" Sci-Fi channel forums? Your posts will get deleted and your ISP banned.
The new BSG has NOTHING to do with the old one. It's basically a morality play about how a bunch of political do-gooders would react in space if they had ships that could travel across the galaxies and earth were destroyed.
It is not a remake of the original show. It's just a sci-fi version of daytime soap operas. But hey, what do I know? I'm just ignorant.
I tried to follow the new one, in spite of everything. I quit 3-4 eps ago. When Sci-Fi chan is on a political mission to try and resemble modern-day life with modern-day issues in the middle of a science fiction show, they stop being able to make decent sci-fi. Thx Bonnie Hammer. I'm glad Gaius Baltar is a conflicted science man of conscience and cylons are just misunderstood persecuted people (oh never mind that they destroyed 12 planets and annihilated presumably trillions of people, they are misunderstood and need to have a "resistance" support-structure on board the fleet of survivors ~ adios reality, hello hollywood politics).
Sci-Fi chan:
You've re-imagined BSG for me and it smells like the nightly news.
and PS ~ (ADAMA) E.J. Olmos will NEVER be equal in acting ability to Lorne Greene. He sucks, he sucks real real bad!
XG
No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.
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I try to forget that Galactica 1980 ever happened. WOW, was that bad! Not in a campy, funny way, either, but in a cringing, "OMG what have they done to my favorite show" way. I mean really, they can fly in space and they are going to be impressed by gas engines and radio waves. I think this one was created by network execs in committee rather than actual writers.
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I think the new BSG is a nice little slice of Sci-fi. Its quite true it owes a huge dept to Firefly in its visual effects style (Isn’t the CG done by the same company?)
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Who do you suppose is in there?
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Quote:
Originally posted by XeroGravity:
The old series was a piece of shit. The man who wrote it was forced to make a made-for-TV version of star wars. He had great ideas but had to tone them down and produce generic fodder for public consumption.
The great strength of the original BSG was the fact that "the creator" of the show had creative control over the special effects. Cylons were the coolest chrome-ified robot enemies ever, led by Gaius Baltar who destroyed 12 whole planets right off the bat. Forget the gay-ass Gaius Baltar in the "re-imagined" BSG2. The original was evil incarnate, an "in-your-face" bad guy. In the new BSG, Gaius is a weak-ass boytoy who is sleeping with a Cylon (but hey, it's been re-imagined).
Bonnie Hammer took over Sci-fi chan. Her influence is felt in this show. It's been "re-imagined". Did you know you aren't allowed to talk about this shit in the "official" Sci-Fi channel forums? Your posts will get deleted and your ISP banned.
The new BSG has NOTHING to do with the new one. It's basically a morality play about how a bunch of political do-gooders would react in space if they had ships that could travel across the galaxies and earth were destroyed.
It is not a remake of the original show. It's just a sci-fi version of daytime soap operas. But hey, what do I know? I'm just ignorant.
I tried to follow the new one, in spite of everything. I quit 3-4 eps ago. When Sci-Fi chan is on a political mission to try and resemble modern-day life with modern-day issues in the middle of a science fiction show, they stop being able to make decent sci-fi. Thx Bonnie Hammer. I'm glad Gaius Baltar is a conflicted science man of conscience and cylons are just misunderstood persecuted people (oh never mind that they destroyed 12 planets and annihilated presumably trillions of people, they are misunderstood and need to have a "resistance" support-structure on board the fleet of survivors ~ adios reality, hello hollywood politics).
Sci-Fi chan:
You've re-imagined BSG for me and it smells like the nightly news.
and PS ~ (ADAMA) E.J. Olmos will NEVER be equal in acting ability to Lorne Greene. He sucks, he sucks real real bad!
XG
No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.
Hi zerog,
I am so with you there. I can't go so far as to call it a piece of shit, though. I like the stories and actors too much. But yeh, if the network hadn't interfered so much and cut the budget way down, we could have had a higher quality show. Hatch, Benidict, and Greene will always have a special place in my heart. They gave the charactures a sense of nobility, the new ones just seem a little whinny to me.
Doesn't it seem like they threw poor Hatch some kind of bone with this series, after he worked so hard to get the origional back?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Haze:
I think the new BSG is a nice little slice of Sci-fi. Its quite true it owes a huge dept to Firefly in its visual effects style (Isn’t the CG done by the same company?)
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Who do you suppose is in there?
I thought that Firefly came before the BSG series? I had heard that it's the same CGI company. Maybe they developed the technique and the producers of both shows liked and used it?
Sorry,never mind me,I read the post backwards.
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Hatch is a whore. He tried to "lead" the way on the revive BSG campaign, even wrote fiction books on BSG (against the will of "the creator").
He acted like he gave a shit about the show criticizing the direction sci-fi chan was taking it in, and now that's it back on the air (re-imagined), he has a starring role. He's a whore.
Benedict has kept out of it but I imagine we'll be seeing him sooner or later getting an actor's paycheck (just like hatch) ~ actors will be actors.
Hatch didn't work hard to get the show back on the air. He just milked the efforts of die-hard BSG fans who fought for 20+ years to get back on the air, and at the first hint of a payday he betrayed them so he could get his buttugly wrinkled face back on the air. Screw him.
I hate the new BSG. It's lame as hell.
The orginial cylons and their 1/2-disc ships didn't need to be re-imagined. It was the only thing about the show that I looked forward to seeing revamped with CGI graphics. Instead they just threw it out (baby with the bathwater).
But throw in a couple hot actresses as leads, a bunch of washed-up no-talents, and make it all political-now'ish. You have a "critical" hit.
Sci-fi chan didn't have to sell out, their audience was finding them (slowly but surely). They sold out in the moment of truth, and now we get this load of horseshit.
XG
No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.
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Sorry XG...couldn't disagree with you more. The new BSG has a depth never even imagined in the first series. It is like comparing the Adam West Batman to Batman Begins. Both serve a function, but one is pure camp, while the other is great drama.
That being said, last night's episode was FRACKING AWESOME!!!!
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I love BSG. I have the everything through season 2.0 on DVD, and was going to wait until 2.5 came out in DVD to see it (sadly, I don't get scifi in the dorm, or at home because I don't get digital cable), but ended up breaking down and downloading all the episodes through "The Captain's Hand" off I-tunes. I love, love, love the show.
I am so pissed that last night's episode isn't on I-tunes yet.
On a weird note, I was looking at Aaron Douglass's website yet and he was talking about the break he gets between seasons two and three and I was like, "wait... so there will be a season three!" :-) And then I realized that of course there would be. It's scifi's top rated show. I'm so used to shows like Firefly, Veronica Mars, and Arrested Development being on the verge of cancellation that I find it totally weird to watch and show knowing that it won't be. Bizarre.
"Objects in Space"
River: It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think...
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