MR. CHENEY DID NOT LIE!

POSTED BY: Ruxton
UPDATED: Friday, February 24, 2006 03:03
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RUXTON

Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:05 PM

As some of you know, I test guns for a living and have done so for a great many years. I took exception to the claims made online recently (and discussed at length in various strings here on FFF.net) by a pack of so-called experts (Alex Jones/Infowars), who said Cheney lied. In fact, the testers lied.

There are currently many rumors and claims by "experts" circulating on the Internet that say Mr. Cheney lied about the range at which he shot Mr. Whittington. I do not particularly like Mr. Cheney, but have determined he was telling the truth:

MY OWN TESTS:
I just now, 3:45 PM, 2/19/06, performed the following tests. I used thin plastic gallon jugs full of water. On my range, at a measured 30 yards, I shot one jug with #7-1/2 shot, and the jug nearly exploded. Many shot pellets (about 50) remained inside the jug. Many more had gone through a full six inches of cold water and penetrated the far side of the jug.

Not content, I filled another plastic water jug with water at about 100 degrees, the approximate temperature of a man. I then covered the jug with three layers of cotton clothing. This time I used a precisely measured charge of 3/4-ounces of #7-1/2 shot, and hit this second jug from a measured 30 yards (not feet!). The jug was again fully penetrated several times, the pellets having traversed three layers of cotton clothing, 0.015" of plastic, six inches of water, and another 0.015" of plastic.

Thirty-seven (37) pellets remained inside of the jug, and the far side of the jug -- six inches of through-water penetration -- was very badly damaged from the shot where it didn't penetrate the last layer of plastic. In case readers don't know, water penetration is a VERY tough test of terminal ballistics, and far better than the cardboard" or rubber dummies or dead chickens (frozen?) used in the so-called experts' test.

The bottom line here is there is absolutely no reason to doubt what Mr. Cheney said. He shot Mr. Whittington at about 30 yards. There is neither controversy nor coverup here. Ballistics don't lie.
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As my doctor/hunter friend (who was entirely correct in his assessment of the potential damage that could be done by #7-1/2 pellets at 30 yards, and which I doubted until today) put it, if Whittington had caught the full charge, or had been much closer to Cheney, he'd be dead. As it is, he's lucky to be alive.

BITTERBIERCE

Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:08 PM

Immediately file under "Politics- Jesus, Who Cares?"

RUXTON

Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:17 PM

BitterBierce:
A whole heluva lot of people who don't like LIES from government, or from fools online.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:23 PM

Thanks, Ruxton.
I like putting to rest a conspiracy theory just as much as exposing one.
In the end, all we want are answers, right?

But his utimate aim of world domination still bothers me Chrisisall

RUXTON

Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:27 PM

Hey, Chris, thanks for the justification. FWIW, his plans for world domination also bother me.

Immensely!

BITTERBIERCE

Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:42 PM

Or maybe some of us write about politics for a living like we're real adults with actual intellects and don't care to see painfully specious and hamhanded amateurish "yee-ha for our side" net tripe in a place that should be above it. I mean really, who gives a flying frig what anyone on a Firefly forum thinks about Bushitler or Michael Moron?

Here is the net rule: you're never going to say anything original about politics. You're never going to have a thought all your own, you're just going to regurgitate crap from your own side. You'll never enlighten anyone, or even inform them. Ever.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:43 PM

Ooops! I just realized; this is on the General Discussions board- we're gonna catch flack for gettin' all political and such...

Many prefer the Alliance to remain just a ficticious thing...

Bad Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BitterBierce:
You'll never enlighten anyone, or even inform them. Ever.

Untrue, my fellow Browncoat!
I have been enlightened on many occasions on the RWED; I have become much more moderate and conservative (the good way) because of them, I dare say.

Credit where it's due Chrisisall

BITTERBIERCE

Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:50 PM

I think that's the funniest thing I've ever heard.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BitterBierce:
I think that's the funniest thing I've ever heard.

What do you mean, "funny"?
Funny like a clown? You think I'm funny??!!

*stops his Joe Pesci impression*

Really though, why funny? That I could learn something new and incorporate it into my ideas and perceptions from a bunch of silly threads?

Or is it the conservative (the good way) that's makin' you laugh?

Call it my need to know Chrisisall

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