Best Season Six Episodes

POSTED BY: Ringwraith
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 9, 2002 18:20
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MOJOECA

Sunday, July 7, 2002 9:27 PM

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OK, not only is this version of the JE story about a completely different character, it ignores the "official" reason Giles was written out -- so that Head could spend more time in England and less in California. Which, with all due skepticism, is probably more or less true.

Well, yeah. I believe he (ASH) had wanted to leave for awhile now (since season 4, I think). That's probably why they planted Giles' wish to return to the UK way back in BVD. I'm guessing Joss convinced him to stay through season 5, because leaving in season 6 would work out better thematically. He was signed for 8 eps in season 6 (I heard) -- he appeared in 6 before leaving and then came back for the last 2.

But since next season isn't about (not) growing up without fatherly guidance and being adrift and suicidal, Giles' presence is sorely wanted, big time, according to Joss.

And, dude, don't feed the trolls!

--- Joe

ZICSOFT

Sunday, July 7, 2002 9:37 PM

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But since next season isn't about (not) growing up without fatherly guidance and being adrift and suicidal, Giles' presence is sorely wanted, big time, according to Joss.

Well, Mister Whedon (sorry, I just can't call him "Joss", I mean he never calls me by my first name!) can easily write in another father figure. Not all of them are tweedy Brit librarians you know!\

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And, dude, don't feed the trolls!

I'm not feeding them, I'm tormenting them. There's a difference!

MOJOECA

Sunday, July 7, 2002 9:42 PM

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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
Well, Mister Whedon (sorry, I just can't call him "Joss", I mean he never calls me by my first name!) can easily write in another father figure. Not all of them are tweedy Brit librarians you know!

Another father figure? Pffftt! That's crazy talk!

--- Joe

JUDU

Monday, July 8, 2002 5:55 PM

who liked the sixth season? ........ i mean really? i did, i love it

"The hardest thing in this world is to live in it"
-Buffy

ZICSOFT

Monday, July 8, 2002 8:40 PM

Judu, I'm afraid you're in the minority. Everybody liked OMWF, and a lot of the other eps have their fans. But the season as a whole? Most Buffy fans seem to think it was a disaster.

You know, I'm a rabid fan, but I really think the whole concept is close to running its course. How many stories about a teenage superheroine can you tell, especially when she's no longer a teenager? If I were Whedon or Noxon, I'd be thinking in terms of wrapping up the saga.

Alas, they won't do that. Even if the Mutant Enemy folks would like to do end the series (and I'm sure it's crossed their minds) UPN and Fox Studios have too much invested in this franchise to let that happen.

One is reminded of Arthur Conan Doyle and his creation Sherlock Holmes. Who was originally supposed to be a character (not even the main character!) in a single book. But Holmes was so popular that Sir Arthur had to keep churning out Sherlock Holmes stories long after he'd become bored with him. According to some sources, he even came to hate Holmes.

MOJOECA

Tuesday, July 9, 2002 4:21 AM

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Originally posted by Judu:
who liked the sixth season? ........ i mean really? i did, i love it

I liked many eps on first viewing. But on re-watching, many fell apart, or were just too depressing to re-watch at all. Though just because an ep is depressing doesn't mean it can't be re-watched -- "Becoming" and "The Body" come to mind. I think there's a difference between those classic eps, which are heartbreaking and compelling every time out, and season 6 eps, which are ceaselessly humor-less, unforgiving prozac-fests.

And since I judge quality by re-watch-ability (is there a word?), I'd say season 6 is probably worst of all. That's not to say I hated it -- it was still pretty good tv. It just wasn't anywhere near the brilliance of previous seasons.

On a sidenote: I peg season four as the best of the post-grad years. And I don't care what anyone says, I believe it's the second best season overall (3 being the best).

EDIT: That's absolutely the last time I talk about season 6.

--- Joe

ZICSOFT

Tuesday, July 9, 2002 2:56 PM

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And since I judge quality by re-watch-ability (is there a word?),

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I'd say season 6 is probably worst of all.

Very good point. I was never a Buffy fan until I saw "Hush". Which is a lot of fun to re-watch, because there's so much to examine and enjoy. Rather like a good painting. "Hush" is an extreme case, but all the better eps are like that.

MILLERNATE

Tuesday, July 9, 2002 6:20 PM

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...Even if the Mutant Enemy folks would like to do end the series (and I'm sure it's crossed their minds) UPN and Fox Studios have too much invested in this franchise to let that happen.

Actually, based off a lot of comments by various individuals, it looks like Buffy the series *is* going to be ended with Season 7. The *concept* is what will be continuing ad naseum by UPN and Fox, probably in various spin-offs like the long-rumored Dawn spin off (which is stupid, I mean if Don Bellisario can get 50% of Quantum Leap why couldn't Whedon get a similar percentage of Buffy to prevent that commericialization?).

Also, regarding the cartoon: Their is an interview of Sarah Michelle Gellar floating around Usenet (from Scifi Wire) where she says that she was never contracted to do the cartoon and that any reports to the contrary are just internet rumor. The exact quote is as follows:

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"I don't know anything about the animated series," Gellar
said in an interview. "I'm not part of that. It says that I am [on the
Internet], but the first I heard of it was last week."

Which I don't necessarily feel that strongly about since, by several accounts, the series is being aimed at a Saturday morning slot meaning a lot of the "edge" (I dislike that word but I can't think of a better one) is going to be removed.

Nathan- one step away from complete and total crankdom

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