Halliburton gets a Contract for 385 Billion dollars to build Detention Camps in the U.S.A

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UPDATED: Monday, February 27, 2006 17:45
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DREAMTROVE

Monday, February 13, 2006 1:18 PM

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I don't consider Fox news a credible resource.

I don't really have anything to say to this. I don't mean commentators on foxnews, maybe that's what you're thinking of, they tend to spout what they believe, which is not news. But the news is news. I think objectively, something on Fox is more likely to be true than something on CNN, but CNN would still be considered a credible source, just one with a political slant I disagree with. Hell, the Nation is more or less a credible source. It's not about political slant. A conspiracy website is not a credible source. That's the equivalent of someone on the right posting a 'news story' with three links to christian websites, and I don't mean the christian science monitor.

The Washington Post is a credible source, not because I agree with everything they say, but because they don't intentionally print stuff which isn't true. Te Washington Times on the other hand is run by a group of religious extremists (the Moonies) who would gladly print something that wasn't true to forward their own political agenda.

As far as the UK goes, I'm sure The London Times and BBC are credible sources. Probably for that matter is Thames ITV, but what Jenny has given us is conspiracy websites as sources. Which is okay, if it's presented as "This is what this guy thinks, does anyone have any thoughts?"

I did that once with a story on the possiblity that WTC was actually leveled from the inside, which doesn"t mean it still wasn't done by Al Qaeda agents, but it's an idea I run into a lot here. Actually, it's pretty widely believed, even among many of my local republicans, that Bush knocked down the towers. I am beginning to truly deteste Bush, but I'm not ready to go that far.

But my point is, I could go some conspiracy site, I'm sure, and find the information "Bush knocked down the towers" and then post it as a news item. If we just started doing this, the objective understanding of the truth would become a distant memory.

ZISKER

Monday, February 13, 2006 2:11 PM

Fair enough, I haven't read all of CHRISISALL's posts to know his political leanings nor can I surmise sarcasm from such a short post.

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams

CHRISISALL

Monday, February 13, 2006 2:12 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:

I can't be sure but knowing Chris I think you missed his point .

I was making a point?
I was just pokin' fun at some who think they know everything...
Ah, ah...ACHooauraptor!

excuse me

Chrisisall

HERO

Monday, February 13, 2006 3:05 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
You forgot the black helicopters. I loved the black helicopters, they look so cool..... I'm sorry but you cant get my attention unless your crack pot theory has black helicopters....

I prosecuted a speeding case from up on the State Turnpike. The vehicle was clocked from the air by a state police helicopter...it was black, so was the pilot, so was the speeding car, but the driver was a white guy from PA on his way to the Super Bowl...wearing a black Steelers Jersey.

Is this completely coincidental or proof of an all encomposing global conspiracy to subvert our very way of life?

What if I tell you that the stop occurred a mere 8 miles from a state mental health facility and that there are plans to dismantle two aging local hydroelectric dams on the Cuyahoga River less then one year before they start producing a new hybrid car in a Toledo auto plant?

Still not sure...then add to all that the failure of American forces to capture Bin Ladden, the Iranian plans to incite war by enriching uraniam, the unrestricted flow of Mexican Immgrants, and the looming countywide ban on smoking. If this doesn't convince you thay we are being taken over by a fifth column of Buddist extremists, then nothing will. Nothing. Fools, the lot of you. Beware the fat and serene ones! Karma is coming for you! Awwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or he could have been going 85mph in a 65 zone. But where's the fun in that?

H

GEEZER

Monday, February 13, 2006 4:02 PM

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Originally posted by StillFree:
http://www.halliburton.com/default/main/halliburton/eng/news/source_fi
les/news.jsp?newsurl=/default/main/halliburton/eng/news/source_files/press_release/2006/kbrnws_012406.html

The camps can serve either as mass immigrant detention facilities or relief housing in case of national emergency. I haven't heard anywhere else in the news about fears of a "mass" influx of immigrants that would require these camps.

From the ICE website's 2004 activities report:

• DHS apprehended an estimated 1,241,089 foreign nationals. Ninety-two percent were natives of Mexico.
• There were 58,727 investigations initiated and 46,656 closed for immigration related activities including crime, compliance enforcement, work site enforcement, identity and benefit fraud, alien smuggling, and counter terrorism.
• ICE detained approximately 235,247 foreign nationals for a minimum of 24 hours.
• There were 202,842 foreign nationals formally removed from the United States. The leading countries of origin of formal removals were Mexico (73 percent), Guatemala (4.1 percent) and Honduras (4.0 percent). More than 1,035,000 other foreign nationals accepted an offer of voluntary departure.

1.25 million seems like a bunch to me.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

STILLFREE

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:10 AM

"This story lacks a credible source."
You can't get much more credible in a story about Halliburton than Halliburton's own press release on their website.
http://www.halliburton.com/default/main/halliburton/eng/news/source_fi
les/news.jsp?newsurl=/default/main/halliburton/eng/news/source_files/press_release/2006/kbrnws_012406.html
"The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other U.S. Government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster. In the event of a natural disaster, the contractor could be tasked with providing housing for ICE personnel performing law enforcement functions in support of relief efforts."

I agree that the stories of American dissident camps and such might lack a credible source. That doesn't mean it's true or not true. I've found that many important stories lacked a credible source until it was too late to make a difference. Let's hope it's false. Whether you believe it or not, don't turn a prejudice blind eye to it just yet.

Geezer, you're absolutely correct. Large quantities of illegal immigrants have been entering the country for years. I suppose I was thinking of the influx if immigrants in relative terms. After all these years of people crossing the border without the administration even batting an eyelash, I was trying to think of how large a number it would take at once to get a response.

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:00 AM

StillFree,

Thanks.

"Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ)"

Why does this strike me as trekkie?

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With a maximum total value of $385 million over a five-year term, consisting of a one-year based period and four one-year options, the competitively awarded contract will be executed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Fort Worth District. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005.

Million Million Million.

Not

Billion Billion Billion.

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The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program

Immigration Customs Enforcement
Detention Removal Operations Program

ICE
DROP

No one codenames their program "Ice Drop" for no reason. Anyway, sounds a little scary. Emergency detention and "rapid development of new programs" is particularly holocausty. If you were of the Pirate persuasion.

Which is not to say that I am.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

How cute:

https://ont.myhalliburton.com/uidp/signon/content/logon.aspx

FLETCH2

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:55 AM

It has been noted before that Military types love macho sounding acronyms and will bend over backwards to make the letters spell a wild cat or a kind of snake. In fact one comedy I saw had such words made up by an official called PUMA -- Pentagon Undersecretary for Macho Acronymns.

PIRATEJENNY

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:26 AM

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The camps can serve either as mass immigrant detention facilities or relief housing in case of national emergency

Thats what they are saying, but I doubt seriously if we are ever going to have the need to detain immigrants on such a massive level, and would you stay in a detention cramp if you were a victim of a disaster,( as if you had committed some crime) This just smacks to much of concentration camps.
and what if you were in an area that had a diseaster and they didn't give you a choice what if you had to stay in one of these camps, do you see where I'm going with this. where does the buck stop.

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In light of the administrations dislike of dissenters ("free speech" zones, mass arrests of protestors), this makes me nervous. Especially considering the harsh and sometimes horribly unfair treatment of New Orleanians in the days following Katrina. Seeing my home turn into a prison affected my view of the administration, considering how much fun they were having instead of worrying about the hugest disaster in American history.

see thats the problem where does it stop, I remember after 9/11 I was talking with a few people and I told them, the so called homeland security was a bad idea that the only people who were going to loose their freedoms was us, which they replied that they didn't believe that and they were just so sure that after everything calmed down that the government would restore our rights..now years later, the government has infringed on even more of our civil liberities, the more power these crimnals get the more they will take , they will take a little here and a little there ,and it starts to add up, one day Americans are going to wake up and wonder what in the hell happened!!

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:57 PM

It kind of reminds me of "The Siege."

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