Pentagon: Secret Report on Climate - Bush lied again

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THEGREYJEDI

Tuesday, October 5, 2004 2:54 AM

ultimately, the only thing we'll destroy is ourselves. If it gets bad enough, the world itself will revolt against us. We are not Life, merely a part of it. Should humanity become extinct, life would continue.

However, if you wish to play Chicken Little and hide in your bunker and hiss at the governemt because it's their fault that the END IS NIGH, then go ahead. I'll continue to recycle, and keep my car in tune, and carpool as I can. And not cower in fear of impending doom. But then, what fear have I of death. I have a greater reward awaiting after my time here on Earth is finished.

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JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, February 8, 2006 11:33 PM

Bush man resigns NASA post in scandal
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060208-104056-2785r
Several NASA scientists and public affairs officials said they had been pressured by Deutsch and other political appointees to limit or slant discussions of topics uncomfortable to the Bush administration.
Last month the information officers revealed they had been instructed to limit NASA climate scientist James Hansen's speaking and interviews concerning global warming.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, February 9, 2006 2:19 AM

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Originally posted by Fireflew:
Coincidentally, I'll be... 32 by the time it get chilly in England. Shall I just buy some big coats now whilst they're cheap ?

Short answer: Yep.

Winterized Chrisisall

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, February 9, 2006 4:21 AM

Bush ran on a platform in 2000 containing a lot of environmental points. The conservation portion of the platform was drawn up by Condi Rice and Christie Whittman. Since then, Bush has fired every underling, with the exception of Condi, who has ever said anything that would require him to take any environmental action.

I don't think the people he has now actually believe what they say, they're just doing what ever they think they have to in order not to get fired. If that means making moronic statements they'll do it.

I remember last year when Max Mayfield kept saying 'lot of hurricanes, looks like that global warming is kicking out ass' Bush and Co went right out and found someone to say the opposite, and Max dropped to the background.

CITIZEN

Thursday, February 9, 2006 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by TheGreyJedi:
And even if there are climate shifts in the works, these things have a tendency towards cyclic behavior.

Although this is true to a degree in respect to the natural cycles, if you look at the climate temperature and CO2 figures for the last 400-600,000yrs it is quite apparent that what is happening now isn't exactly normal behaviour of the natural climate system.

Venus is getting warmer, when does it's balancing ice age happen?

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four persons is suffering from some sort of mental illness. Think of your three best friends -- if they're okay, then it's you.

HERO

Thursday, February 9, 2006 4:32 PM

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Originally posted by piratejenny:
Thanks for the article its very interesting if nothing else..Global warming isn't a hoax..I don't know how soon we are going to start feeling the dire effects

We're seeing it already. Last night, for example, it snowed in Cleveland. Snow, Cleveland, February...and now they're saying that sometime in the next three months its going to get warm and perhaps by July we will have regular alternating periods of rain and sun.

God help us all.

H

AURAPTOR

Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:49 PM

I know, it's like talking to a brick wall, but here goes. Bush didn't lie. Not before, not again. Bush doesn't buy into global warming. Many people don't. Not agreeing w/ something is not the same as lying. (I'm astounded that some people still haven't learned such a simple thing) This report about so called 'scenarios' is just that, a report. It's not a crystal ball, not a view of things to come. Not by a long shot. What such reports DO is lay out worst case scenarios should such catastrophic events occur, and how that might impact the global community in such an event.

The late ( and in my mind, GREAT ) Carl Sagan was in the camp of those who predicted severe consequences as a result of the over 700 oil well fires which were set off by Saddam in the 1st Gulf war. Thick black smoke from those fires would block out the sunlight and result in a regional climate change and a overall global temperature drop. A mini nuclear winter The net result ? Next to nothing , as the fires were put out. Computer climate models and claims from 'experts' were dead wrong.

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Britain is plunged into a 'Siberian' climate by 2020

Anyone want to make a bet that this won't happen? We've got 14 years for this to occur. *I'll put up 1k $$. Any takers ?

*( And just to clarify..are we talkin' Britain in 2020 will have the climate of Siberia circa 2006? Or that Britain and Siberia will both have the same climate in 2020? )

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

DREAMTROVE

Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:29 AM

Auraptor, stop stomping for Al Qaeda Bush. Take an ideological position and fight for it. This "Bush is always right" is getting so old that it's age alone disproves creationism.

This isn't an attack, or hostile flaming troll post, it's serious advice. I suspect that while I disagree with Bush on an increasing number of points daily, I don't really find myself disagreeing with you on other points. Bush is right, or Bush didn't lie, is an absurd position. It's as absurd as the Soviet Union didn't kill people or China isn't an expansionist power. It's just beyond the point where it's even worth arguing. I'm not going to bother with the long list of things that everyone posted last time, as glaring examples of lies by Bush, what would be the point? But I feel I do have to remind you "why does it matter?" If your defense of Bush, the only logical thing that defends him, and it's what you've said before, is that Bush didn't know X or Y or Z, then the logical conclusion is what we already know, which is Bush is a moron. So Bush smarter than Kerry, so what, Kerry is also a moron. Bush isn't even as smart as Clinton, who iis really no genius. There's no comparison between Bush and his father, or even his brother. So maybe Bush simply doesn't know what he's talking about all of the time, why is that any better than if he were a liar? Quite frankly, there's very little that I wouldn't give to trade Bush in for Dick Nixon right now. My current position is Bush has been downgrade from bad for a republican to bad for a president to bad for a human to my new low level, bad for a random animal. No offense, I don't think you're a moron at all, I just think you're being loyal to a fault, and in this case, loyal to someone who is not in any way being loyal to you, as a republican voter, unless you're some Jack Abramoff waiting for kickbacks, because Bush has pretty much betrayed just about every platform point he ran on in 2000.

That said,

Citizen,

You're geologic reference makes an interesting point in the "so what" dept. You proved successfully that global warming is not natural. I most of us thought it was. But since what it is doing is rewinding time, what's wrong with that? I remember someone on the news saying 1-2 million years ago at present. But life on earth was doing just fine 100 million years ago, possibly better than it is today. So why is backwards the wrong direction for climate change to make? Would you prefer another ice age instead? I still can't see that global warming is a serious threat to life on earth, maybe to humans, but humans can move north, or stop polluting, or both.

DREAMTROVE

Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:30 AM

Auraptor,

My apologies for the rant, not directed at you, I'm very very angry at Bush at the moment, more than usual.

AURAPTOR

Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:48 AM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Auraptor,

My apologies for the rant, not directed at you, I'm very very angry at Bush at the moment, more than usual.

I've been skeptical of global warming long before Bush was in the White House. FYI.

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Bush isn't even as smart as Clinton, who iis really no genius.

I don't know about genius, but Clinton was a Rhodes scholar, was he not ? But so what ? I fail to see what this has to do w/ the false claims that Bush lied again My point of defending Bush on this point is simple. Promoting the view that someone lied when in fact they did NOT lie is akin to crying wolf. Don't like Bush's policies ? Fine, no skin off my nose, but don't vilify and slander someone for that which they're not guilty.

mini rant over.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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