Getting Book Published
POSTED BY: queenofthenorth
UPDATED: Friday, March 17, 2006 04:43
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Back early. not by choice. the guilt just kind of nags at me.
http://www.magister.msk.ru/library/babilon/english/howard/howard.htm
read that. forget the comic books and movies. read the works from the man.
pull your book off the printing press and just read everything by him that you can. he is the father of sword and sorcery. you lack talent and to study him is to be great.
xg
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PS - tolkien copied him (badly)
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I going to get your book on amazon. I really admire your energy. I too am a writer. Would you mind answer a few personal questions about the publishing process through authorhouse? Can I email them to you?
For those who have read it already you should write a review on amazon or bn.com. 
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Queeny,
You are as dumb as the day is long. You can't have clay feet. I give you the secret to success in your field and you do and say nothing. I gave you a link to REH's beautiful works (public domain as they are). You'll probably never read them. Such a shame.
REH's Hyborean age is something out of a 1960's and 70's Frazetta painting. Robert E. Howard's Beowulf-inspired pulp novels are the best sword and sorcery stories ever penned. His writing never lets you forget the barbarism and cruelty of the ancient world. Conan, either as solo marauder or with freebooting cohorts, roams a wicked and pitiless world, debauching wicked women and deflowering priestly virgins, thieving, hacking and slaying his way from one adventure to the next. I won't mention Kull ever again since hollywood poisoned the storyline by putting that xero-talent whore Kevin Sorbo into the role. It was the rape of good literature.
When REH describes combat it's always dark and superviolent. The imagery is intensely vivid and his atmospherics make for incredible reading. Howard is the best I've ever seen in the sword and sorcery genre. He fathered it after all. His words bring to life worlds beyond my senses. To hear him tell tales of battles is to be transported there. Things like looming stormclouds darkening the horizons, cold winds and crescent banners swaying above the ugly swordplay, the peal of trumpets before the battle is joined, the swarms of arrows whistling through the sky obscuring the sun, etc. Nobody could write like Howard.
Tolkien modeled Middle Earth and his entire style of writing after REH's Hyborean world, although far less dark, and much more mythical. The dreamlike nightmare world of REH was inhabited by demonic powers, ravenous monsters, and ancient heathen demi-gods, any one of which would make Tolkien's red dragon, "Smaug", feel like a playful pussycat. Before there was Sauron, there was the texts of REH.
If you want to write fantasy books about a dreamworld, you MUST study the masters who came before you. Your writing sucks and you need to read the works of the great ones. No goddess could or would ever equal the monstrous powers of REH's world.
You need to infuse your writing with the masters who came before you. otherwise you will always be amateurish.
I think this finishes my obligation to be honest with you about my opinions. Bought your book and hated it. Hate me but I'm being honest with you.
XG
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Originally posted by harshcritic:
I going to get your book on amazon. I really admire your energy. I too am a writer. Would you mind answer a few personal questions about the publishing process through authorhouse? Can I email them to you?
For those who have read it already you should write a review on amazon or bn.com.
Thanks for the support, harshcritic. I wouldn't mind answering any questions you have. Just pm them to me and I'll answer anything I can.
As for you, XG, good attempt at trying to piss me off. But I'm simply going to take the advice I need and not care about the rest of what you posted. I know you're just trying to get me to tell you to go away and never come back. So, if that's what you want, go away and never come back.
But how seriously do you think I could take that when you've blatantly contradicted everything you previously posted? I mean really, I thought you had more conviction than that. And I'm not insulted that you said you hated my book. That's fine. What insults me is that you think I'm as easy to piss off as everyone else around here. Do you think you're the first asshole I've ever met? You've got nothing on the people I know and have met in person. I'm not so thin-skinned and cowardly as all that. Cuz when it comes down to it, just like I'm an amateur writer, you're an amateur asshole.
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Oops. I forgot to mention Kull to begin with.
His works were epic tales of Kull the Atlantean, Conan whom I'm sure you already know, and most important to your writing ~ Red Sonja. The first chick to ever sling a sword in a world full of supernatural terrors.
You are hellbent on writing about women wielding swords. Red Sonja should be your inspiration.
Forget that disgusting film hollywood made starring Brigite whats-her-name. Read the REH "Red Sonja" texts. She was just Stallone's bedroom toy and her terrible acting should never reflect on the novels.
XG
No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.
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Originally posted by XeroGravity:
PS - tolkien copied him (badly)
Actually if you do some research you'll see that Tolkien's inspiration came from an author he read over and over as a boy, and his name was Andrew Lang. He was very interested in this fanasty genre author while he was a young child. As he grew older he also became heavily inspired by Medieval Welsh lore and even started creating his own languages based on Gothic and Norse (he was 14 years old at the time). This was in 1906, the year that Howard was born. In 1911, Tolkien went on a holiday to Switzerland, and he started jotting down his adventures with 12 other hikers through the mountains, which became the inspiration for Bilbo's adventures through the Misty Mountains. Howard would have been 5 years old at this time. And in 1916, Tolkien started writing The Book of Lost Tales, which is the start of his History of Middle Earth. Howard was 10 years old when all of this happened.
The first thing I can find that Howard wrote was in 1932, after Tolkien was already writing his epic fanatsy genre. So no, Tolkien was not inspired by Howard, and did not copy Howard. Tolkien's inspirations came to him as he was a young child, either before Howard was born, and as Howard was an infant.
Howard is considered the Father of Sword and Sorcery genre whereas Tolkien is considered the Father of the Epic Fantasy genre.
Psolaris
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As for you Psolaris, I'll deal with you later. I will gladly tear apart the myths you possess about the fraud Tolkien.
Anglophiles everywhere will be up in arms.
For now, I focus on Queeny.
Queeny:
I'm not trying to piss you off. You can't handle what I have to say when it comes down to it.
YES! Your writing is amateurish. Your "Sword and Sorcery" heroes and villains are all predictably black and white. There is no in-between. Your writing is formula-based and boring.
I give you REH and you give me a whole lotta lip.
Accuse me of all kind of nonsensical plots but you know I'm saying what I think.
XG
psolairs: I so desperately want to deal with your misguided load of horseshit but I will do so later. tolkien was a 1/2-ass hack. nothing more.
strangely enough "The Hobbit" is my most-favorite book, as big a whore as Tolkien was. LOTR won't even appear in my top 50.
STFU. for the greater good.
No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.
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Originally posted by XeroGravity:
I'm not trying to piss you off. You can't handle what I have to say when it comes down to it.
YES! Your writing is amateurish. Your "Sword and Sorcery" heroes and villains are all predictably black and white. There is no in-between. Your writing is formula-based and boring.
I give you REH and you give me a whole lotta lip.
Accuse me of all kind of nonsensical plots but you know I'm saying what I think.
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Um, yeah, I can handle what you say. I believe that I admitted myself that my writing is amateurish. I know it is. Being, you know, that I am an amateur. That would be why I'm trying to better myself. And I did say I would take your advice. I just said I would ignore the part where you do your usual, over-the-top, try to piss the world off statements. Yeah, you're saying what you think. You're also doing your best to try and piss people off, just like you always do. Being that you completely turned around on stuff you said earlier makes it kind of obvious. Don't think I'm an idiot just because I'm an amateur. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have more writing to do.
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From mostly a lurker....
Wow XG WTF! Are you bipolar or smoking something strange on your smoke breaks? You give criticism and praise to her book then turn rabid.....???
Like JRR or not, Psolaris is right about the timelines. Do some research.....and lighten up. As for me REH ---meh he’s OK
As for Queenofthenorth, good on you for trying. Ignore the armchair critics and keep writing.
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