Can you believe this.
POSTED BY: Firestalker
UPDATED: Monday, March 6, 2006 06:43
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It looks like people should just stop making Sci-Fi, considering Star Trek and Star Wars have already done everything, right?
Ships in space, LOOK, FIREFLY TOTALLY RIPPED THAT OFF!
ZOMG! PEOPLE TOO! RIP-OFF!
STAR?! WTF?! HOW COULD THEY BLATENTLY RIP OFF STAR WARS LIKE THAT?!
I can understand people not liking it, but claiming it's a ripoff is such a copout. Not to mention, where do they get off about the storytelling? I find the storytelling in FF to be phenominal. Firefly is about character development, not big explosions to keep the masses enthralled.
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Wow. I haven't seen that kind of shallow, angry and ignorant commentary on Firefly since 2002... when the herds of wailing, whining Dark Angel fanboys were trolling the boards.
That review is missing the crucial sign-off:
"My head hurts."
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"Because teenage pranks are fun when you're about to die!" - Hoban Washburne
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Originally posted by 11thHour:
Wow. I haven't seen that kind of shallow, angry and ignorant commentary on Firefly since 2002... when the herds of wailing, whining Dark Angel fanboys were trolling the boards.
That review is missing the crucial sign-off:
"My head hurts."
I don't remember that. I've been here since then, but to be honest I didn't read as many posts until I registered in Jan '03.
You know every so often I would wonder when I actually registered and for some reason it never occurred to me to actually check. So now I know, I joined on Friday.
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For the record, what little Dark Angel I saw I liked. Doesn't mean it was good, didn't see enough to tell whether it was good or not, but no matter what more people liked it than the herds of wailing, whining fanboys.
I'm not saying you were claiming anything negative about fans in general or the show though, just saying.
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Parody? How in the sam hell is Firefly or Serenity a parody of anything? Witty dialogue, yes, but I fail to see where the satire is. Maybe he was confused with Spaceballs?
But yes, some folks are predisposed to disliking every single bit of original science fiction, so they have to claim it's a knock-off of whatever their favorite series / movie is.
I wonder if he gets all bent up if someone says that Star Wars is a 'ripoff' of Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress? KF
~KF
Lord, I'm walking your way. Let me in, for my feet are sore, my clothes are ragged.
Look in my eyes, Lord, and my sins will play out on them as on a screen. Read them all.
Forgive what you can and send me on my path. I will walk on until you bid me rest.
~Haven Prayer
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Isn't Star Wars a ripoff of 2001: A Space Odyssey? Which in turn was a ripoff of Jules Verne's From The Earth To The Moon, since they all... y'know... used ships that flew in space and all, and went places and did things. And Vader's blank-yet-malevolent gaze is eerily reminiscent of the HAL 9000... (But HAL was the better actor)
Really, I'm just kiddin' around. Just pointing out that, at the bottom of things, just about EVERYTHING is a ripoff of something. It's how things grow and expand - by referencing earlier works.
Star Wars was *okay*. I mean the three original ones were. Great effects, cool ideas, interesting overall story, but let's face it, cardboard cutouts could have done a better acting job in those movies than some of the "actors" Lucas used (I credit him with part of that. "Okay, let's try it again, but with a little less feeling. Visualize yourself as a soap dish. Okay, ACTION!"). Ditto for Star Trek. In its original iteration, it was cute, as a kind of campy send-up in the vein of the old Batman show. All they needed was "BIFF!" and "ZOWIE!" graphics for the fight scenes. There were some good story ideas in both, but neither of those franchises exactly broke the mold when it came to writing and developing characters.
Don't start bashing me on the SW and ST stuff; I'm just playin'. I liked 'em both, watched them semi-religiously, and I'm old enough to have watched the original Star Trek series in primetime when it was new.
I'm changing my sig just for this in-the-dark (literally AND figuratively speaking) nerd.
Mike
"Kaylee, find that Amazon geek that's taking a dirt nap with baby Jesus; we need a hood ornament."
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Well, it's all about the averages, you know. 49% of the population has to be below average intelligence....
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It takes a village to raise a child, and an army to raze a village.
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For some strange reason, I've been finding these past few weeks that Firefly and Serenity have people on one pole or the other. They either love it or hate it.
IMDB boards are infested with people who are only looking to bash the movie and show.
I could really care less. I love it and that's what's important. And for once, this community of people actually DO NOT rise to the bait and blast back, like so many others I've seen. It shows a maturity and poise that not many fans have. I'm proud to say I'm a Browncoat.
From no other show can we get such awesome quotes.
"See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown."
Kaele
(pronounced 'kale', not like kaylee)
AIM - Dewlanna
YID - jedi_kaele
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No. They either love it or they're wrong.
Reviewer is clearly East Ham to pick Spaceballs as a good spoof. Totally eclipsed by Galaxy Quest.
G
Deeply satisfying is whipping out the calculator on Amazon's Firefly customer reviews. 5Stars/Total runs out at getting on for 94%
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Originally posted by Gixxer:
Reviewer is clearly East Ham to pick Spaceballs as a good spoof. Totally eclipsed by Galaxy Quest.
Oh yeah... Spaceballs was way too direct and 'literal' as a parody (one-to-one for every single character? blah). Galaxy Quest spoofed the entire Sci-Fi culture, and was brilliant at it.
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Originally posted by Kaele:
IMDB boards are infested with people who are only looking to bash the movie and show.
IMDB boards (and many others) have plenty of folks who are looking to bash every movie and show. The more fervent praise, the more fervent bashing.
And usually when someone claims such-and-such show is a 'ripoff' means that they're plumb out of arguments. KF
~KF
Lord, I'm walking your way. Let me in, for my feet are sore, my clothes are ragged.
Look in my eyes, Lord, and my sins will play out on them as on a screen. Read them all.
Forgive what you can and send me on my path. I will walk on until you bid me rest.
~Haven Prayer
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