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Katrina-related accusations and the info behind them

POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 03:57
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Friday, February 3, 2006 8:43 PM

Snideness aside, I just reviewed this entire thread. Rather than trying to get to the bottom of things, what I see are a lot of links to documented FEMA f*ckups and a lot of excuses and misdirection by Geezer. "It's just heresay". "That was someplace else". "People could have evacuated" "Standard government incompetence". Ignoring uncomfortably well-documented problems. And when FEMAILS become public- bring out the black helicopters and the ad hominem attacks!

The reason why Geezer doesn't want to get to the bottom of this sordid mess is because when he does, he'll find Bush's face looking back at him. Bush obviously isn't the ONLY person who screwed up but for some reason Geezer just can't credit Bush with the slightest responsibility for this mess. According to Geezer, Bush is just a hapless misunderstood victim of circumstance.

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Friday, February 3, 2006 9:27 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Well I noticed right away that Geezer had nothing to say about the "Heckuva job" emails OR the fact that Bush has been/still is stonewalling the Commission. But he conjured up black helicopters. I dunno Rue, did YOU bring up black helicopters??? Did I?? Did Fletch??



Then I'll bring it up. Our sheriff Tim Hutchison in Knox County Tennessee sent his fleet of 6 military-issue helicopters to New Orleans, to alegedly "help in the rescue". His helicopters are painted black... Presumably to stealthily sneak up on deaf drug farmers harvesting their hemp at night.

Sheriff "Hutch" personally was convicted 6 times for criminal perjury, confessed to renting an airport from a convicted drug dealer, confessed on the front page of the newspaper to stealing cars at a shopping mall with a convicted cop-killing tow-trucker, built 400 houses with his convicted felon business partner without a license. He also declared martial law in Knoxville Tennessee to forcibly evacuate 40,000 residents after a fake US Army train derailment with smoke bombs in hopper cars simulating chlorine gas not leaking from a tanker car. Hutch also hosted the top GOPsters on election eve 1996, at the country music dance club owned by a then-indicted Arab terrorist caught money laundering and concealing stolen property (later convicted). GOP VIPS dancing with Hutch and the Arab terrorist were presidential nominee Bob Dole, novice candidate Dr CanniBill Frist (promoted to Speaker of Senate in his freshman term after paying an $840-MILLION criminal fine for Medicare/Medicaid fraud), et al.

So perhaps Hutch went to the Big Sleazy to help the copsters down there loot 100s of new cars, since Knoxville is world HQ for tow-trucking car thieves? Or to pick up his next shipment of CIA coke? Knox County has over $1-billion/year in coke deliveries since Biush Gang's Iran-Contra in 1980s, according to FBI, courts and newspapers.

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Knox Sheriff Declines "America's Most Wanted" Help in Berry Murder:

After all, it doesn't look like Knox County is any closer to solving this case, leaving many of Johnia's family members like Gaines Burke, frustrated. "It seems that to me they would have more information or leads," Burke said. Berry's parents tell us America's Most Wanted approached the sheriff's department about doing a story on this case, but they say Knox County turned down that request.
www.johniaberry.org



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Saturday, February 4, 2006 12:57 AM

Well, see? Ask and you shall receive: black helicopters!

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Saturday, February 4, 2006 1:30 AM

Yeah, I wrote a story about them published in a Knoxville newspaper. After midnight, I "infiltrated" the sheriff's dept FBO (fixed base operator) hanger at Island Home Airport, and chatted up the "deputy" pilots and ground crew, who are on site 24/7. They told me how the sheriff got 6 "free" Bell helicopters from the National Guard (paid for by your taxes), and then local taxpayers had to spend $50,000 each to rebuild them, not counting the extremely high operating cost. Then the sheriff gets to sell them for profit later. Why does the sheriff need 6 choppers, when one is enough, and they are not even licensed for rescue work, and can never legally carry passengers or crash victims. So I wrote it up as a newspaper article.

The newspaper editor phoned me to ask if I wanted my name on the byline, warning me there might be "retaliations" against me, since I also mentioned police-run car-theft rings and the police chief's DUI arrest transcript, and a police-apporved copkilling of KPD cop Tony Williams, all linked to my website. I told the editor to go ahead and put my name on it, "What can they do to me?"

Within 6 hours, police and tow-truckers stole my parked car from our law office parking lot, then denied they had it for 6 weeks, so I listed it as "stolen" on NCIC database. Then we got a tow bill for $700. This ended up with 4 class action lawsuits filed in 3 courts, criminal charges filed, over 100 govt employees were fired, and my dad got "mugged" with 2 guns put to his head (case "unsolved").
http://geocities.com/towcrime
http://geocities.com/parking_ticket_appeal

And I got 3 of the sheriff's black helicopters flying over my house in tight formation....

As a result of my article, and the resultant news stories by local TV news, the sheriff moved his FBO to an airfield owned by a convicted drug dealer. The local news had a field day on that one. But no cop seems to have what it takes to arrest the sheriff. The sheriff even demands up to $30,000 bribe from deputies to get promoted to sergeant or lieutenant, according to his own deputies I spoke with who were standing at the court house in uniform, which they recoup by cashing in on graft, shakesdowns of local businesses for beer licenses, and extortion of career criminals like drug kingpins, prostitute rings, car-theft chop shops, etc. Is that why the last BTVS fanvention was held here in the Hellmouth, er, KnoxVile TN?

But that's all just a Coincidence Theory. Curse those black helicopters!

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Saturday, February 4, 2006 3:25 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Well, see? Ask and you shall receive: black helicopters!


Oh, now I am most certainly gonna watch 'Conspiracy Theory' again tonight- all this talk of Black Helicopters and such has got me in the mood...

Jerry Chrisisall

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Saturday, February 4, 2006 2:05 PM

Well, 'll be off the net for the week, so let me just pose a couple of questions that might give some indication of why things take a while.


Katrina dumped several hundred thousand people on the low-income housing market in one big lump. That market is pretty well saturated already, so there's not enough empty space to take but a fration. This overlooks the fact that many of the refugees might not want to move to the locations where housing IS available. Hotels and renting cruise ships is OK short term, but gets awful expensive after a while. So what to do? Please avoid "If we ended the war we'd have more money" answers, since both you and FEMA know that's not going to happen.

Many of the evacuees from NO want to move back home. Their homes, and often entire neighborhoods, are completely gone, including most infrastructure. A good numbr of these folks lived in apartments or houses with little or no insurance. Also note that the residential building trade nationwide is running at about capacity right now without considering rebuilding NO and the rest of the Gulf Coast. What to do?

Most of the casualties of Katrina and Rita were people who didn't evacuate, despite warnings. How do you guarantee total evacuation of several million people in a couple of days? There's not enough law enforcement and military to go door-to-door in such a large area, especially since they have other duties geting the folks that do want to evacuate out of the area. Nt to mention the peoples' right to be stupid and stay if they want to.

Please have your papers in by Thursday afternoon.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, February 4, 2006 3:15 PM

See? Like I said: "I am a fashion god" is totally off the radar. So is the fact that the Bush administration has told everyone involved with Katrina NOT to turn over papers to Commission. Everything that has EVER gone wrong with FEMA is just... well, nobody's fault. Probably not Michael "heckuva job" Brown's and definitely not Bush's. It's just... you know... the way things are. Market forces. Politics as usual. Bureaucracy. Nothing that the President has any control over. What did you expect him to do? End his vacation? Moblize the National Guard from other states? Step in when market forces are ineffective? Match the government's reponse to the size of the disaster? Give a shit??? I mean, give the guy a break- he's only the President of the United States, fer cryin' out loud!


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Saturday, February 4, 2006 7:28 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
What did you expect him to do? End his vacation? Moblize the National Guard from other states? Step in when market forces are ineffective? Match the government's reponse to the size of the disaster? Give a shit???

Actually, ALL OF THE ABOVE!!!
Wtf are you DEFENDING him for??? He can start a WAR, but can't mobilize-

oh. Ironical sarcasm.

thought you went to the Dark side for a moment there, Signy

Chrisisall

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Monday, February 6, 2006 2:01 AM

What more is there to say about Bush though. It's kind of all been said. But just in case it hasn't, I share this, sent to me by my sister:

http://www.quietagent.com/superbowl/

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Tuesday, February 14, 2006 2:28 PM

That WAS funny!!!

But, hey, on a more serious note, I've got soemthing for Geezer that should answer his questions about why FEMA f*cked up.

Are you ready Geezer?

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"Our investigation revealed that Katrina was a national failure, an abdication of the most solemn obligation to provide for the common welfare," the report said. "At every level -- individual, corporate, philanthropic and governmental -- we failed to meet the challenge that was Katrina. In this cautionary tale, all the little pigs built houses of straw." ...The report is the result of a Republican 11-member House select committee that investigated the response to Katrina at the local, state and federal levels... The panel found that Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff was "detached" and that then-Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown was "clueless," Shays said. In one of the excerpts, Chertoff was chided for executing critical responsibilities "late, ineffectively or not at all."


The report- which will be released Wednesday- will certainly find plenty of blame to go around at all levels. But the little President and all his band of little men will not be unscathed. I'm going to add that the President resisted this commission and told appointees NOT to release emails etc to the members.

You may all recall that Bush also resisted the 9-11 Commission, and only testified with Cheney holding his hand and not under oath. You may also recall that Alberto Gonzales refused to testify under oath to the House Committee investigating the secret spying scandal.

God, these guys are a piece of work, aren't they Geezer?

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