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Monday, January 30, 2006 1:25 AM

You all have touched on most of the scenes I would include. The only one I would add is where Mal pats the bloody catalyzer after he finally gets it in place in OoG. That gets me every time.

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Monday, January 30, 2006 1:42 AM

I'm right there with HappyBrain. When Jayne crouches next to the infirmary window during Kaylee's operation it just crushes me. It's not something that affected me on the first or even second viewing. I only understood how significant it was after really getting an idea of who Jayne is.

Another moment in Serenity that gets me is when Dobson takes River hostage, and she stares at the gun and then at Kaylee with an expression of pure fear and despair.

Of course I love when Mal wakes up in OoG, and finds himself surrounded by his crew. He is just so vulnerable (for once). It makes me want to hug him and never let go.

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Monday, January 30, 2006 7:47 AM

FireFly/Serenity has got me waxing lyrical, the last few days. So, I read this fantastic thread, on what pulls our heart strings. Unfortunately, towards the end, I realized I no longer have anything substantial to contribute, as great men and great women have already made great posts, and said even greater things. And more importantly, have pretty much said everything I had been dying to say myself.

I wanted to say that I think pretty much all scenes with River Tam are gut-wrenching. Especially those were she's really vulnerable. Because vulnerability, I say, is the one aspect of humanity which makes us realize, above all, that our Love is needed, and where we find in ourselves -- sometimes to our own surprise, even -- that we are capable of giving it, too.

The moments that tug at my heart strings are not necessarily lines, per se. Very often, especially with River, what just breaks my heart are the things she cannot say, or says with those beautiful wide eyes. When she's playing with Kaylee, that chokes me up just as much as, say, when she connects to Simon, as she stumbles out of the cryo box. Although the latter, I must confess, is probably of a higher order.

In Serenity, in the military installation, where Simon says:

"Yes. She always did love to dance."

Pay particular attention to his face, please. Controlled anguish, and not-so-controlled Love, coming together in one single expression. In that brief moment, the whole 'verse, despite itself, suddenly makes sense. Because you realize that Love is not just the driving force behind Simon, but is also, as we learn in the end, that which keeps Mal's boat afloat. And I submit to you even further: the strings that truly tug at our heart are all just invisible threads of Love, spun across the sky, which they cannot take away from us, along which we mutually reel ourselves in, towards one another, towards mutual healing.

Vulnerability calls to vulnerability. Perhaps that is why I hear the call of the FireFly so loudly; or rather, why I find that call so hard to resist.

"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:55 AM

After watching the movie, the scene where Wash and Zoe are arguing about having a child is especially heart-wrenching.

Other than that, I'll have to agree with what everyone else said.

Wash: Yeah, but psychic? That sounds like science fiction.
Zoe: You live on a spaceship, dear.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by asarian:

In Serenity, in the military installation, where Simon says:

"Yes. She always did love to dance."

Pay particular attention to his face, please. Controlled anguish, and not-so-controlled Love, coming together in one single expression. In that brief moment, the whole 'verse, despite itself, suddenly makes sense. Because you realize that Love is not just the driving force behind Simon, but is also, as we learn in the end, that which keeps Mal's boat afloat. And I submit to you even further: the strings that truly tug at our heart are all just invisible threads of Love, spun across the sky, which they cannot take away from us, along which we mutually reel ourselves in, towards one another, towards mutual healing.

Vulnerability calls to vulnerability. Perhaps that is why I hear the call of the FireFly so loudly; or rather, why I find that call so hard to resist.




Thank you for that beautiful thought. You're absolutely right!

The moments I love have already been said for the most part. I also love Out of Gas--the whole episode is really one big heart-string tug. Simon's face when he sees the 'cake', and Mal dragging himself off the floor determined to fix his ship no matter what. The scene with Inara crying in HoG, Mal's bitter guilt at the end of the ep, Wash's death and the funeral scene at the end of the BDM, and so many more I just can't think of them all right now.

We're gonna explode? I don't wanna explode!

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Wednesday, February 1, 2006 1:37 AM

These are all great, but also one of my favorites was at the very end of Out of Gas. The way Mal looked at Serenity. True love, oh to be looked at liked that...Now that's acting!

"I'm lost, I'm angry...and I'm armed." - Mal

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Thursday, February 2, 2006 3:56 AM

I have to agree with everyone who siad Jayne crouching outside the infirmary.

Also

I didn't think you'd come.

Well, you're a dummy.


And

She's tore up plenty, but she'll fly true.

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Thursday, February 2, 2006 11:46 AM

Another OOG fan - I could just watch Nathan Fillion close doors all day.

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Thursday, February 2, 2006 1:26 PM

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Originally posted by mphillips:
What a great thread..And so many scenes..
1) The message Mal's carried the bullet speech



I hadn't caught that line until about my third time watching that episode, but it really got me choked up once I understood it.

There ain't much I can add off-hand that hasn't been said here already. However I just got around to watching the deleted scenes from the Firefly Boxed Set, and while I understand why they cut them, there are some really good quotes in there.

From the alternate opening to the pilot, with Mal saying "God? Who's color's he flying?" Loved that, shows his whole rejection of faith from that moment on, and you can see how the war has changed him.

Also, I just LOVED this quote from Zoe, from another scene deleted out of the pilot: "Once you've been in Serenity, you never leave. You just learn to live there."

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Friday, February 3, 2006 5:21 PM

Well, there are a LOT of good tug at the heart moments.

In no particular order, here are mine:

The end of The Message with the music and the monologue and them cutting to each character.

Simon willing to die with his sister and the look on his face as he tells them to light the fire.

Mal being a very bad man telling Kaylee has died.

Gabriel Tam saying "I will NOT come for you" and then seeing the parallel when Simon asks Mal "Why did you come back for us?"

River talking about the crew being afraid of her in objects in space and seeing the crew (especially Simon's) reaction to her words.



Tammy

"A government is a body of people usually notably ungoverned."

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