Was it the mixed marriage they didn't like?

POSTED BY: Nellie
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 05:10
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RIVER6213

Friday, January 27, 2006 7:46 AM

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Originally posted by globlabsurdity:
More like--someone's an idealist. Always been a failing of mine.

*Never judge a book by it's movie*
*The heart is an artist that paints over what profoundly disturbs it, leaving on the canvas a less dark,less sharp version of the truth*--D.Koontz (Forever Odd)

Good point, thanks for reminding me ...really.

SUBTORPMAN

Friday, January 27, 2006 11:07 AM

Zoe was black? What wait isn't she spanish "Gina Torres". Sorry I was busy looking at her body. She is Hot, and a damn good actor.

NELLIE

Friday, January 27, 2006 3:10 PM

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Originally posted by Ninah148:
Nellie, you can't have seen "Walk the Line" yet. Reese Witherspoon did not win a Golden Globe for her portrayal of a "happily married woman," she won it for her portrayal of a woman suffering through two bad relationships while inexorably attracted to a married man. Big difference.

Wow! Every time I think this thread has completely disappeared forever, banished to the archives, it pops up again. That's the neat thing about Haken's site---you never know what's going to happen!

You are absolutely right, Ninah148, that I haven't seen "Walk the Line" yet. I only looked up some biographical information about Johnny Cash, and it said June Carter was the love of his life, and they were happily married for decades, and it didn't talk about the rocky road to love that you describe. It just quoted June as saying she had always been happy to be a part of his life, so I just wrongly assumed it was smooth sailing the whole time.

I still say happy marriages are not boring, though---were we all bored by Wash & Zoe? I don't agree that happy=boring, and I think it's time we changed this old idea that all "art" must be achingly sad, traumatic or miserable in order to be "art".

Well, I don't know where your happy Asian/Black couple goes in order of "acceptability", but I think it's cool anyway!

And to all you Browncoats, tonight is Chinese New Year's Eve, so may you have a

Happy & Prosperous Year of the Fire Dog!

NINAH148

Friday, January 27, 2006 3:45 PM

I'm a newcomer to this site, so all the threads seem new to me! :-) Yeah, Johnny and June Carter Cash ended up together very happily, but the movie ends before they're even married, and is all about their troubled courtship (she was married and then divorced and in another relationship, he was married and drug-addicted). Great movie, though, definitely go see it!

NINAH148

Friday, January 27, 2006 3:50 PM

Oh, I should say I agree with what you said in other respects, though. Zoe and Wash are not boring, the interplay between them is a really important element of the show, gives rise to some of the best laughs (thinking of Wash's interrogation here), and gives the Serenity crew and emotional grounding that some of the more "lost" characters lack. And of course interracial romances are still not completely accepted by everyone, we're barely a generation from when such relationships were considered crimes. From my experience and the experience of other interracial couples I know of all varieties, the intolerance is extremely sporadic and hopefully continuing to diminish over time.

MERCHANTMARINE1

Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:24 AM

27 January 2006

Mixed or interracial marriages probably was an element, the episode of "War Stories" with the arrival of the ambassador on a quiet appointment and the scenes that followed probably stunned the network execs. Remember Rosie, Ellen and many other celebrities that voiced their position. The networks are not ready for that just yet, its not racist, its politics. I am in an interracial marriage and firefly touched my wife and I, we saw the series for the first time this month on the Scifi Channel and went out and found the Serenity DVD and bought the complete series on DVD. A word to Mr. Whedon, there is no such thing as dead, the audience is what is important, star trek was ressurected from the sixties and formed 6 motion pictures with the original cast, 3 spin off series with Mr. Roddenbury producing one of them until his passing. Let the fans decide obviously the fans already think you are a genious talent behind the camera.

Brian Kendrick
Merchantmarine1

DERANGEDMILK

Saturday, January 28, 2006 4:20 AM

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Originally posted by Blinker:

Star Trek is full of 'em: O'Brien and Keiko, Paris and Torres, Worf and Jadzia. (That last marriage ended in death, but only because Terry Farrell asked to leave the series.)

Can't forget that the original Star Trek series had the first televisied interracial kiss between Kirk and Uhura(sp?).

-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

MERCHANTMARINE1

Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:10 AM

30 January 2006

I met Nichols in person several years ago in West Sacramento at a convention, she mentioned the drama about that scene from Execs and the audience and that was the 60's. Its politics mixed with religion, we have seen wasted debate in our legislator and federal government over same sex marriage bans, myself, just sitting in a wifi coffee house cafe with my laptop with all my wifes pics on the outside taped, had responses like "I hate asian women they are too dammed skinny" yes that was said to me and also on a first class flight to Hawaii too... made by a lady sitting next to me looking at my screen savors. The problem is in the older generation, many execs are in favor of reality TV, shows with less controversy, talk shows that have the host put forth their own views do not last long ex rosie, ellen just to name a few, now that WB and UPN or leaving the airwaves might help in a change, and Fox needs to look to the future. Can TV change ideas and beliefs, in my opinion NO, that arena belongs in the home. Again I say let the audience and fans decide. If the scifi channel can reserrect Battlestar Galactica and making its 3rd season now, Mr. Whedon should consider that. Unversal Pictures gave him a shot, the firefly is not dead, rumors make it so but look at all the threads and interviews Serenity made believers and admirers. It did for my wife and I and we are interracial and live in the Philippines too. Don't give up. Like Mal said, love remember those lines in Serenity.

Merchantmarine1

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