A Christians perspective
POSTED BY: MalforPresident
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 10, 2025 23:49
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I started this thread with the hopes of peace, however that seems to be slipping away every minute. Lol. I've heard some very interesting arguments for and against alot of litterature, even that of the classics (Poe, Dante, etc...), and have come to one conclusion; Authors are going to state what they feel. This is what is subjective. Untill this thread I had not known that Joss was an atheist. That does not detter me from his writting one bit. Writting is about relaying a point. Joss has many points in his shows that are well thought out reflections of life, and for that I am appreciative. It is easier to learn something through a story when the writer doesn't ladden the story with personal convictions but lets the characters be true to thier parts. This is why I say bravo to Whedon in his introduction of Book into his story. As a guiding mentor in my life used to say "When you read a book son, Eat the meat and spit out the bones."
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(EDIT: Oh, I forgot in my initial response. I do believe that "Firefly" does glorify the companion's immorality. Inara is easily considered the most respected person on Serenity because of what she does -- which is having sex with people to whom she's not married.)
She Is respected becuase she is the only one with a formal education, and is part of a High Society. Kaylee Looks up to her as a big sister. On the other hand, Mal HATES what she does and belittles her for it.
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Inarra is also:
Highly inteligent
Very Compasionate
Level headed
Excellent listener
Commuicates well
She was trained to be these things, she was trained to be a "person" that everyone likes and respects.
Only the half mad are wholly alive!
E.A.
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You're assuming that everyone's idea of morality and indecency is the same, Cartoon. If that were true there would be nothing to discuss on this, or any, website. Society as we know would not exist without debate. We would all just lay down.
People curse in real life. People kill in real life. People have exta-marital and pre-marital sex in real life. Therefore it would be unrealistic not to include these things if it were Joss's goal to portay realism on Firefly.
I think one of the reasons this show has the fan base it does is because of the moral conflicts between the characters. Who wants to watch a show about a ship full of shiny happy people?
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I try to follow the teachings of Christ. I really like the way Book was betrayed.
NY/NJ/CT Browncoats: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firefly_nyc
I think you mean "portrayed" :) Either that or you picked on something I never noticed?
As for belief as a browncoat, I think that it's good that all kinds of people can like this show and find something from it. Whether the characters are immoral or not isn't at debate, really; it's what the take-home message is, and that's that people at the end of their luck, running and desperate, can still find a way to happiness and family. And even if there's a space-hooker, that's a good message.
I'm a believing person, and so Book's character really connected with me. I'm not a Christian, so I liked that he was more of a generalized religious figure rather than a specific guy. It would have turned me off to hear preaching about a specific religion; I get enough of that from "friends" who are convinced that Heaven is mercilessly open only to those who accept their way of thinking (and no, I'm not just talking about Christians...all sorts of people can be closed-minded). I don't understand why some people believe that their religion's flame must burn so brightly that it extinguishes the flame of other moral religions.
The thing that I liked especially about Firefly is that it made clear, through the 'it fixes you' bits and other things that faith does not answer the 'how' but rather the 'why.' This is an important distinction that is lost between scientists and theologians, who both seem to think that their discipline answers everything. Science tells you what's under the sun (nothing new, I've heard), and faith tells you what's above it. I liked that Firefly hinted that the two don't have to be at odds, since this is how I feel, being a scientist and a religious person.
"See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like."
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Inarra is also:
Highly inteligent
Very Compasionate
Level headed
Excellent listener
Commuicates well
E.A.
I agree whole heartedly. Inara was a very real character. It was her reactions to her own life that kind of got to me. Did anyone else feel like she felt trapped in the "Companion" lifestyle? Was this because of her feelings for Mal, or just a general discontent?
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Originally posted by HappyBrain:
Who wants to watch a show about a ship full of shiny happy people?
It's called "The Love Boat" Happy. And only a few of them were shiny...
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I Think Inarra was happy with her profession and life. Her heart wants to be with MAl. This is the same conflict many of us go through. We Are very happy with our professional life, but we begin to resent it because it removes us from the things we love.
Only the half mad are wholly alive!
E.A.
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obviously Mal is not A "bad" man, he is A ex-sargent in the military. If you'll remember his remark in the movie "if I go to war you'll know it" also he was getting ready for what appeared at the time A suicide mission past the Reavers to Miranda. If your going to tell your crew you'll "shoot anyone who gets in my way" it has to be believealble. No what he did was'nt mean just nessissary.
jhance11
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Like yourself I also believe in God. unlike you however I do not believe the bible is the word of God. Since yo brought up noah,here's some science to chew on. If the ark had been built to the specs laid out in the bible it would have been 4 footballs fields long. Now not withstanding that Noah had only his family and maybe A few friends to build this.We know for A fact steel was not available or even known yet in this period. It is fact A wooden ark of that size would have sunk like A stone due to the weight and stress. It would have sprung hundreds of leaks( check with the boys at Cal-tech. Also with the time period they were given to bring in every animal on the planet to the ark, they would have had to load 5 animals every second non stop. no rest no breaks no day off. Just the simple mathmatics. Also under hurricane 5 conditions it could rain 40 days and 40nights and stillnever come close to engulfing the world in water. Do I take the Bible litterally. No.
Do it think it has many wisdoms and much to teach the world absolutely. Many religions throughout history have had to make adjustments to reality. Just my perspective
jhance11
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Yeah, I know...that ark thing seems impossible, doesn't it?
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