A Christians perspective

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MTNSCOTT

Friday, January 20, 2006 9:54 PM

2 words on Noah's ark and I am leaving work and bowing out of this Conversation: Genetic Bottleneck.

Religious debates are always fun.

Only the half mad are wholly alive!
E.A.

FREERADICAL42

Friday, January 20, 2006 9:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Omelet:
With reagards to your comments saying that the boat would have sunk and that the world would have not been covered in water after 40 days and nights,I disagree. This is God we're talking about. God can do anything. God is the supreme ruler and father. He can cause anything to happen.

So also, this is a really terrible argument. The Old Testament makes a strong effort to always explain miracles in terms of natural phenomena; these are all things that could have happened on their own but are very, very unlikely and thereby miraculous. Why would G-d have made the laws of physics only to break them? Wouldn't he have just made them differently? It seems like he would operate within them whenever possible.

"See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like."

STORYMARK

Friday, January 20, 2006 9:59 PM

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Originally posted by PrincessRohannen:
I wonder why it is that so many people automatically start to get defensive and antagonistic the moment a word like "morality" is thrown into a conversation?

And why are there so many here on this board trying to force a relativistic view of morality on those of us who happen to believe that right and wrong are absolute?

And where exactly did someone try to force you to change your view? After just readng the entire thread, all I see is some people offering a different opinion of morality, or simply pointing out the fact that not everyone shares the same view.

This is a thread asking for different perspectives from Christians, and in case you didn't know, that still covers a large spectrum of interpretation and beleif.

Unless what you really want is for those who hold different opinions of morality to keep those opinions to themselves, in which case I would ask who is really trying to force their views on another?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

OMELET

Friday, January 20, 2006 9:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by freeradical42:
Quote:
Originally posted by Omelet:
With reagards to your comments saying that the boat would have sunk and that the world would have not been covered in water after 40 days and nights,I disagree. This is God we're talking about. God can do anything. God is the supreme ruler and father. He can cause anything to happen.

So also, this is a really terrible argument. The Old Testament makes a strong effort to always explain miracles in terms of natural phenomena; these are all things that could have happened on their own but are very, very unlikely and thereby miraculous. Why would G-d have made the laws of physics only to break them? Wouldn't he have just made them differently? It seems like he would operate within them whenever possible.

"See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like."

God does things in a grandiose fashion to show that He is the supreme ruler and creator of this Earth and universe. He is showing his power so there is no doubt that he is Lord.

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Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!

CARTOON

Friday, January 20, 2006 10:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Windwalker:
Another observation in the same vein.
What episode did Mal kick the bad guy into an engine intake to his death?

I believe that was the episode where they crossed Niska -- "The Train Job". The next guy changed his mind pretty quickly after that demonstration, huh?

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Originally posted by Windwalker:
Jesus is Lord...by the way

I should've been so subtle. (Note for future reference: Add a "by the way" at the end of the thing.)

In response to the people who've criticized my criticism...

It seems kind of strange that in a thread called "A Christian's Perspective", that a Christian giving their Christian perspective should be criticized for feeling that way by people who are (by their own admission) NOT Christians. What's the title of the thread? Oopps...by the way.

I happen to agree with everything Princessrohan has said -- uh, by the way. At least, in this thread. I'm not vouching for posts made elsewhere.

This show certainly draws a diverse range of Browncoats.

"I can't!! Too much hair!"

MALFORPRESIDENT

Friday, January 20, 2006 10:01 PM

Well, I guess the hope for civilized conversation is no more. Pushing all of this aside. I AM GLAD THAT WE ALL CAN BELIEVE IN FIREFLY! Don't start a Holy War in this thread please. I knew this might have been a bad idea. Too many tensions. God Bless you all.

WINDWALKER

Friday, January 20, 2006 10:04 PM

I should have just put...

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

FREERADICAL42

Friday, January 20, 2006 10:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Omelet:

God does things in a grandiose fashion to show that He is the supreme ruler and creator of this Earth and universe. He is showing his power so there is no doubt that he is Lord.

How right you are; and even more sublime and great is G-d for doing it in such a way that he did not violate the laws of his own creation! The greatest are both powerful and subtle, and G-d does both wonderfully. Instead of just commanding all men but Noah to die, he floods the world with water. He does not exercise the full extent of his power, rather choosing to stay within the laws of physics. To me, this makes G-d all the more powerful.

"See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like."

QUEENOFTHENORTH

Friday, January 20, 2006 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:

I've heard that reasoning before, Queen, and as much I enjoy pretending your posts are invisible , it doesn't wash (no Serenity pilot's name pun intended).

You don't have to include curse words to show realism. I'm sorry. I know I've seen (and read) very gritty, true-to-life stories where they weren't used and (in my opinion) nothing suffered as a result. A good example I can give you were Frank Miller's "Daredevil" comics in the 1970's. No curse words. Very realistic portrayal. They aren't necessary. You won't convince me otherwise.

Regarding portraying immorality and such, I'm not arguing with that. Sometimes it needs to be portrayed (albeit, not graphically, in my opinion). I'm not arguing against its portrayal, just its glorification.

Now, please tell me that you're not going to kill me with your brain (your signature quote still frightens me)...

"The girl's a problem."

The curse words I agree with you. They aren't strictly necessary in order to portray realism. Though every little detail helps. However, I can only think of one person I know who never swears. And I know a lot of people. So, to me, a story full of a bunch of people who never ever swear would be a bit unrealistic.

As a side note - do you just count taking the Lord's name in vain as a curse word? Or do you include man-made swears in that too? Just curious.

Now, as for the immorality thing, I agree with you that it shouldn't be glorified. However, I don't think Inara's immorality really is. She is repeatedly called a whore throughout the series, even by a man who's in love with her. Book confesses early on that the subject makes him uncomfortable. And I'm fairly certain one of the main reasons why Mal hasn't admitted his feelings for her is because of what she does. The only reasons why Inara are respected, I feel, is because of who she is (an intelligent, generally good woman) and not for what she does. That's my opinion anyway. But you're entitled to yours. I swear I won't kill you with my brain.

"I'm having one of those things - a headache with pictures."

"Of course I'm right. And if I'm not, may we all be horribly crushed from above somehow."

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CARTOON

Friday, January 20, 2006 10:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Windwalker:
I should have just put...

If I didn't know better, I'd think Wind was referrin' ta' ME...

By the way... I'm still laughing at that pic you posted yesterday of L&H. What a hoot. Am wondering if my Dad ever saw that. He would've had a fit (the good kind).

Uh, Mal, I don't think anyone's been calllin' anyone names... Uh, except for Wind just sayin' I'm stupid.

Just some polite, point to point disagreement. You didn't think we'd all see eye to eye, didja?

By the way... haven't seen any invisible posts, lately. Where you gone to, Queen?

"I'm no good with words. Don't use em' much, myself."

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