Mal and his people are just low-life thieves...
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 14:32
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Well said, AgentRouka.
Lemmee ask you all this:
When Mal pulled a gun to shut the crew up, shot a man with his hands held high in surrender, and told the crew to "get to work" in the movie, was he still a hero?
To me, that was one of his most defining moments. That was Mal looking out for him and his; doing what had to be done. Was it right and heroic?
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Quote:Pardon me for speculating, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Thieving is thieving, even if it is from the Alliance. It's only cool in a juvenile, break all rules, rebel without a clue kind of way.
You never had a policeman threaten you, or steal from you, have you? You never had a day in court where the bailiff took you aside to inform you that you weren't going to win this one 'no matter what', have you? I have.
It's easy to play the good citizen card if you never felt the injustice possible in 'the system', any system.
And if you don't know both sides, it's easy to label Mal.
Respectfully, Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Pardon me for speculating, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Thieving is thieving, even if it is from the Alliance. It's only cool in a juvenile, break all rules, rebel without a clue kind of way.
You never had a policeman threaten you, or steal from you, have you? You never had a day in court where the bailiff took you aside to inform you that you weren't going to win this one 'no matter what', have you? I have.
It's easy to play the good citizen card if you never felt the injustice possible in 'the system', any system.
And if you don't know both sides, it's easy to label Mal.
Respectfully, Chrisisall
Now hang on just a minute. Just because the system is imperfect doesn't mean anarchy is the answer.
If society creates a serial killer, does that mean killing is right?
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yes, it was. The man who came out may have been trying to surender, but he killed all the town, and Mal didn't accept his surender. If Mal had taken his surender adn killed him, hat would be wrong, but there was no way in hell he was going to let the guy live after.
And Mal does not say he will shoot them if they don't do what he wants. He says if he hears any words that "aren't taking your leave" He'll shoot them down. Which to me means, if your gonna come don't argue, if your not just leave. If you try to stay and argue, I'll shoot you. Though I don't really think he would, I think it was a bluff. Theres just no way in my mind that he'd ever shoot little sister.
If you play Nationstates.net check out the region Firefly.
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I don’t want to come down on either side right now, cuz I’m still a little uncertain on my position (which I see as separate from whether or not I enjoy the crew’s characters and escapades as entertainment).
However, I would like to remind folks who feel that stealing from the Alliance isn’t a bad thing to ask themselves: where does the Alliance’s money come from? Innocent taxpayers, folks who never bothered anyone. And when you steal from the Alliance, even just a little bit, the burden eventually rests on the innocent folk at the very bottom. It doesn't really hurt the Alliance as an institution, it just squeezes its citizens.
Just something for us all to mull over…
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Quote:It was right.
Originally posted by PrincessRohannen:
When Mal pulled a gun to shut the crew up, shot a man with his hands held high in surrender, and told the crew to "get to work" in the movie, Was it right and heroic?
Heroic would come later in the movie.
Mal was on the clock; it's frustrating.
Early Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Bowie:
yes, it was. The man who came out may have been trying to surender, but he killed all the town, and Mal didn't accept his surender. If Mal had taken his surender adn killed him, hat would be wrong, but there was no way in hell he was going to let the guy live after.
If you play Nationstates.net check out the region Firefly.
Then it's right to kill if it's for the sake of revenge?
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:It was right.
Originally posted by PrincessRohannen:
When Mal pulled a gun to shut the crew up, shot a man with his hands held high in surrender, and told the crew to "get to work" in the movie, Was it right and heroic?
Heroic would come later in the movie.
Mal was on the clock; it's frustrating.
Early Chrisisall
Are you saying that frustration and time contraints justify anything?
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Its right to kill someone if they killed a whole town, yes. Not all revenge is justified, like it'd be bad to kill for the sake of being slighted at school, but for killing a whole town, including children and old folk, yes. They don't have a law system to do it for them, so they do what they have to do, cause someone has to.
If you play Nationstates.net check out the region Firefly.
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Originally posted by PrincessRohannen:
I'm actually one of those who would call the crew a bunch of low-down petty thieves; and I'd say it with pride. Mal isn't Robin Hood. These people aren't heroes. They're just trying to live free. I think of them as pirates, and that's what makes them unique. It's one of my favorite things about the show that the characters are complex and imperfect. Anti-heroes, if you like the term.
They are definitely thieves, but no where near low-down or petty. They have values and certain moral lines that they do not cross.
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Geeze i want Firefly to come back!
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