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Was it the mixed marriage they didn't like?

POSTED BY: Nellie
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 05:10
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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by russell:

Its like reading a good book and getting half way through it, then seeing that the remaining pages are all blank.



What a wonderful way to express it! That's exactly how I feel, too.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:53 PM

Originally posted by russell:

Its like reading a good book and getting half way through it, then seeing that the remaining pages are all blank.






River6213:
That actually sums up my Firefly experience for me.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:56 PM

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Originally posted by Shepard:
...I wish we could all live in a world where racism was more theoretical than real.



I totally agree with that, thanks for adding it.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:14 PM

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I never really thought of Zoe as black or Wash as white I thought I them as a couple. I don't think Wash was killed off because his realtionship with Zoe was crosses lines in peoples eyes. The orignal show didn't get seen enough for the marriage to upset people. And if it had upset people back then, then maybe it would have given the show some media attention and the show could have gone on??

I believe Wash died in his moment of glory, and he died for the feeling of all is lost. Haven was destroyed, book died, Wash died, most of the crew having a stand down with the Reavers. EVERYONE gets hurt, and then Mal getting the crap beat out of him by the Operative. I think Joss killed Wash because he wanted to fool us into thinking that this was the end for everyone.

OO and one last thing.....the Operative I believe he went and threw himself on his sword.

~~River: Bible's broken. Contradictions, false logics. Doesn't make sense.~~

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:18 PM

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Originally posted by DonCoat:
Well, Star Trek TNG had an Irish-Asian mixed marriage.



Asian/White unions are unspoken, approved versions of interracial relationships than White/Black unions.

Asian/White couples are approved mainly because of the white males misguded view of the Asian woman, but thats another topic all together.

This is something I notice on television, movies, and in public. I see people getting visibly upset when there is an black/white couple, but I almost never see public disapproval when its Asian/White combination, but also it depends WHERE you are in the USA that matters.

Some places like California, or Washington State may not have as much problems as compared with Iowa or Texas.

Believe it or not there are places in the USA where interracial relationships are seen in the same light as homosexuality, or beastiality, which is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. And a lot of these idiots believe that God is against interracial interaction, and they say they can prove it in their bibles...**PLACE SWEAR WORD HERE**

Wash and Zoe loved each other. The actors played the characters well, and it was easy to believe that they were a married couple. They looked good together. I think that most normal people wouldnt have a problem with these two people getting together.

My 1st thought regarding Zoe and Wash, when I got that they were married, when I 1st watched the show was: What a beautiful woman, why is she with that wimpy guy?

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:30 PM

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Originally posted by CBY:
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Originally posted by dax82:
Thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard.



On the other hand, a black man felt the urge to say "George Bush doesn't care about black people" in front of millions - makes you think, doesn't it? Maybe the prejudices are still deep seated somewhere in the American heads.



A lot of you have really been taken in by all the propaganda regarding the USA. Racism is alive and well here, but the level or racism depends on WHERE you are in the United States, and your level of education, status, and visibility.

Anyone living here in North America who believes that racism no longer exists in America has to be white, living in a isolated area, and is totally uninformed....basically, they are idiots stumbling about in the dark of complete ignorance.


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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:50 PM

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Originally posted by DonCoat:
Well, Star Trek TNG had an Irish-Asian mixed marriage.





Thats so dumb!

Its like a few years ago when i was arging with a friend about interracial relationships and the general publics view of it. My friend believed that there was no more racism in the United States, and he pointed out the fact that John Lennon and Yoko Ono were an interracial couple, and no one had a problem with that.

**John and Yoko?**

Some people are so dumb that it sometimes makes me want to cry.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:53 PM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
A lot of you have really been taken in by all the propaganda regarding the USA.



We are all manipulated by the media one way or another. Many people consider us still Nazis for instance (especially the British "Sun") which is just antic. It sticks at you like dogshit.

But that's another subject and not worth arguing about.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:26 PM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:


Thats so dumb!

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**John and Yoko?**

Some people are so dumb that it sometimes makes me want to cry.


I have to agree with you River6213. Rasicim is still around and in some places going strong, and John and Yoko? First of all I know LOTS of people who hated this coupling though not because of race. But really asain and white couplings are viewed completely different from black and white. UHHHH my head hurts!

~~River: Bible's broken. Contradictions, false logics. Doesn't make sense.~~

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:17 PM

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Originally posted by Nellie:
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Originally posted by Earlywarning:
I believe in the commentary to the pilot "Serenity",
Joss states that Fox objected to a happily married couple.
Happy equals boring.



If a happy marriage is so boring, why did Reese Witherspoon just win a Golden Globe Award for portraying a happily married woman?

No, Earlywarning, I can't let you get away with that. If a happy marriage is so boring, why is it the dream of most people on the planet?




I believe your mixing your realities....which is unreal. I was talking about what people want to watch on tv. Or more correctly what TV execs believe you want to watch on tv. They equate happy with boring. Hence soap operas. Even Joss knew that. Thats why no one on Buffy was ever happy for long.

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