Nephilim who or what are they

POSTED BY: Windwalker
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 22:15
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WINDWALKER

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:42 PM

http://www.dragonkeypress.com/articles/article_2004_10_26_0451.html

My guess if scientists were to examine the DNA of these creatures they would find some interesting abnormalities in the DNA code in comparison to a normal human. or not if it was a spiritual mutation (demonic)

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:44 PM

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Originally posted by Windwalker:
It is what it is
A "general discussion"
Why quibble over location when one is having a conversation.
Excuse me why I go from the kitchen to the toilet so I can talk crap

What is the purpose of having different areas for discussion if they are to be ignored?

By starting any manner of discussion in this area it bumps other threads relevant to discussion of Firefly & Serenity down the line & perhaps even off the page where they might be missed.

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WINDWALKER

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:17 PM

GIANTS DID EXIST

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

WINDWALKER

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:17 PM

Point noted
Why split hairs?
We are communicating
Are you a CPA or an accountant?
MAY BE ONE SHOULD DIRECT THE OTHER WHERE TO DISCUSS THIS
ANYWAY YOU ARE INTERUPTING MY THREAD

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

BAPTISMO

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:27 PM

Interesting.

Here is a great website. www.s8int.com .

Not saying I believe everything thats on there, but it doers pose some serious questions to a lot of the commonly held beliefs of the aincient world.

BOWIE

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:32 PM

I hate to be a prick but,

Why do we care? I don't mean to seem rude or anything, I just actually want to know why people care if there were Giants in the past. It doesn't make life easier or harder now, and even if the gene is allive, it doesn't seem to make people that big. So why do we care?

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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:39 PM

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Originally posted by Windwalker:
Those individuals are not persay "giants"
They are tall humans
The giants range from 13 feet to 18 feet and were not "benevolent"
They were mutants that were antagonisitc and savage. Not sports idols of today.
Bird and jordon would be dwarves compaired to Goliath who really did exist. Goliath was a descendent of the son's of Anak who were the first "giants" from the Nephilimic affirs with human women.

I’m not going to argue religion with you. You’re welcome to believe whatever you want in that area, but historically and scientifically, the issue is not as moot.

According to the Dead Sea Scrolls, Goliath is 4 cubits and a span tall, which puts him at about 6.5 feet tall. I don’t know how tall David was, but we can assume that he was smaller, and if he was shorter then the average and not fully grown, he might have been as small as 4 foot. When a 4 foot tall boy throws a rock at a 6.5 foot tall Punic warrior and kills him thereby ending a war, that’s front page news. The story of David and Galiath is perfectly plausible and fits well with historical references.

As for 13 to 18 foot tall giants, I’d don’t think there is any evidence for such a thing. There is rare, but historical, evidence for very tall men, 9-10 foot, but that doesn’t mean they were a race of giants. People suffering from pituitary gigantism can reach heights as tall as 9-10 feet. It’s unusual, but it has occurred, even recently, so it’s not impossible that historical evidence does exist. And it even makes sense that historical evidence would exist, because a man that tall, would have been very revered and/or fear, so one would expect history to make note of it. But that’s not a “race” of giants; that’s just historical references of pituitary gigantism.

Much of the historical evidence for giants comes from people or ethnic groups who are tall. The Germans, for instance, during the post-classical period were, on average, as much as a foot taller then Romans and Greeks. A foot might not seem like much, but when a warband of hairy German beserkers, on average, a foot taller, are charging towards you, that’s likely to make you get religion in a hurry. We see similar things in Biblical times. Germans didn’t exist then, but Cimmerians and Scythians did, and they may have been just as tall. So men who were larger then average did exist then. And there are lots of reasons why history would record large men and call them giants.

But there certainly is no strong evidence for a race of 13 to 18 foot tall men. Even people with pituitary gigantism die long before they get that tall. The human body simply can't support that much height. If there was a race of men that large, I can’t imagine why there wouldn’t be considerable evidence of it.

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GOINUTSINOR

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:59 PM

http://www.khouse.org/pages/special_events/alien_encounters/

Everything you ever wanted to know about the history of nephilium and aliens and how it corresponds to the Bible. Very interesting...

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:35 AM

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
If you put Larry Bird or Michael Jordan in Punic armor and pit them against Joe Pesci (who was about average height back then)
I didn't realize Joe Pesci was that old.

Oh, He is. He was there. I saw him.

"Everything that guy just said is bullshit... Thank you"
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Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
-- Ruby

BADGERSHAT

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:46 AM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I think Goliath probably did exist in some form, but I don’t think he was related to any species of giant. If you put Larry Bird or Michael Jordan in Punic armor and pit them against Joe Pesci (who was about average height back then) then it's not hard to imagine how Giant mythology emerged.

I'm seven feet tall. I have a first cousin who is just about 4'6".

There's your David and Goliath right there (we've gotten a whoooooole lot of mileage out of that, since his name is, funny enough, "David").

Total arbitrary shot of my opinion:
ANY religious tome (Bible, Koran, Torah, etc.) is going to have stories/parables/whatever about the creatiojn of humanity.

Basically, there's not one of them that can be proven (or disproven, for that matter, at least not entirely).

The smart thing to do, in my estimation, is to take the stories as ideas and concepts, with the understanding that we do not and CAN NOT comprehend the Ultimate Truth.

--Jefé The Hat

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