Have you guys seen this?
POSTED BY: gypsylife
UPDATED: Thursday, February 2, 2006 03:57
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Originally posted by JuTin:
I know you just said this but I'm saying it in a different way...
that article is another fake trying to get our hopes up, they always screw up somewhere in trying to sound professional. Here they screwed up by saying "Universal's best marketing efforts..."
I saw a commercial for Serenity on FOX about 6 times, a comercial on F/X 3 or 4 times and one (1) ((1!!)) on NBC!! None on SCI-FI (other than during Firefly) OH OH and the trailer twice on UniversalHD.
I love Universal but I saw a commercial for Into The Blue about 100 times and a Serenity commercial 12-13 times.
I saw a lot of trailers before the movie was out, and then a big fat zero when it was still in the theaters. The one thing that I didn't really see was the TV appearances by cast members advertising the movie. No LIVE w/ Regis and Kelly, or Daily Show, or Good Morning America. Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough or something, but besides the same trailer over and over I never saw anything else. For an all-be-it fantastic, but relativley obscure TV show you need much better marketing than that. It was almost if Universal wanted it to fail, but still look like it tried.
If there is any truth to the DVD sales driving a BDS than we will all just have to buy one for everybody that we know and do our own marketing. Screw Universal and FOX.
And the whole Joss calling it quits with Firefly/Serenity... I don't and won't believe it yet. Didn't I see a quote on this website about Joss saying that it was a "bizaar event when you have a story to tell but can't share it." Or something like that sounds to me like he still wants to finish his story, but at this point he can't.
Just have to wait and hope that Fox sells the rights to somebody like Sci-Fi channel so we can at least get a made for cable movie.
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Psolaris: I do blame you. In fact I also blame you for this whole global overpopulation problem, and world hunger as well. Of course, I have a well-rehearsed speech on how we could solve both problems with cannibalism (2 birds with one stone), but that's a discussion for another day.
I have another movie recommendation for you. This is the only other foreign film in my top 10. It's way off the radar screen but most of the flicks I watch these days are foreign or indie flicks anyhow.
It's called "Baran". I can't begin to tell you what a great movie this is! Hollywood could make a 1000 movies about love and innocence and never come anywhere near this. I won't tell you about the plot. You just gotta trust me on this one.
It's an Iranian film (go figure) by Majid Majidi. Majidi is kind of like the underground Spielberg of the tyrannical 3rd world. Back before Spielberg turned into the no-talent limopimp of hollywood. Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope Spielberg never makes another scifi flick again. One more gratuitous self-important dose of his failed attempts at futuristic fiction and his rep will begin to stink as bad his movies do.
Trust me on this one. This movie is absolutely amazing. All of Majidi's movies are beautiful, but "Baran" is his magnum opus (IMHO).
XG
No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.
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*scribbles a list of movies that XG recommends*
I'll look at my local video store for it, and I hope they'll have it. When I went looking for Amelie, their foreign film section was disappointingly small. 
I'll pick it up this weekend in fact, if they do have it.
Yes, I suppose global overpopulation could be considered my fault, since I'm a goddess of sort, and using that to solve world hunger was all part of my evil plan 
Psolaris
"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"
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If anybody besides you three is still reading this thread, I felt this was an item of interest, originally posted on WHEDONESQUE:
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All right, now I have to jump in and set the record straight. EW is a fine rag, but they do take things out of context. Obviously when I said I had 'closure', what I meant was "I hate Serenity, I hated Firefly, I think my fans are stupid and Nathan Fillion smells like turnips." But EW's always got to put some weird negative spin on it. But so we're clear once and for all: If you read a quote saying "I'd love to do more in this 'verse with these actors in any medium" all I'm saying is that Nathan has a turnipy odor. It's not his fault, he doesn't eat a lot of them but everyone else in the cast noticed it and tht's not really something I'm prepared to deal with any more. And Jewel said outright she wouldn't do scenes with him except stuff like the SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER funeral scene which was outside in a high SPOILER wind. So if I do manage to find another incarnation for my beloved creation, it will have been totally against my will.
I hope that clears everything up. Oh, and when I say I want to do a Spike movie, it means I have a bunion on my toe.
-joss (by which I mean Tim)
(no, actually me.)
- http://whedonesque.com/comments/9027#more
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Hmm, turnips, huh? Oh well, he's still got a nice ass. 
And poor Joss has a bunion on his toe.
Oh, and XG, I might be able to find Amelie, but I KNOW I can't find this Baran you speak of. Which sucks.
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Alright Sikku I'm gonna take you to task on this one...
Nice post. I'm assuming it's from Joss. My reply to it in 1000 words or less...
"So fuckin what?"
Ok that's 3 words. Nowhere near a 1000.
Whedon ain't saying jack shit with that post (if in fact it's him). It's humorous, yes. Sounds like his roundabout way of being silly and humorous while not actually saying anything. It feels like he's gonna make some serious pronouncement, and then it goes nowhere. Kind of contrived. It lacks seriousness.
I wanna hear Whedon say something like "I'm fighting with my whole heart and soul to bring back Firefly, and I'd eat a ton of whale blubber and die a billion horrible deaths before I give up on my show". But he's not saying that. Nor do I even remotely believe he's saying that. I wish he would, but he won't. Screw passivity. Fight for the friggin show. Bring back Firefly.
Sounds to me like he's just trying to diffuse the anger and disappointment people are feeling when it becomes obvious he's not trying to bring back the show. Sorry... he's gonna have to speak direct and be all serious if he want's to convince me. That post says absolutely nothing to that effect. Nada, xero, xilch, xip.
Joss, joo got some xplainin to doo. Babalooooo.
XG
PS~
...between myself, Queeny, and Psolaris, I doubt that the 3 of us could have managed 1000+ hits on this thread in the space of the last 4-5 days. I have a memory like a fucking elephant when it comes to trite little details involving numbers. I hadn't noticed how much attention this thread has been getting until now. Can't say I'm shocked though.
So it ain't just we 3.
No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.
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Psolaris's PM to me...
Psolaris of FIREFLYFANS.NET has sent you the following message:
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Ok, I saw Baran, and I figured it'd be easier to talk this way than to keep talking over the waves on FFF.net. I've got to admit I'm still contemplating the flick as I'm not quite sure what to make of it.
First off, I wasn't quite impressed with the acting in it. However I will admit that I did love the story itself. It kind of started out a little slow for me, but the story line picked up when they almost captured Baran and she went running away from the Inspectors. There were points in time in the movie that I actually caught myself thinking, "gee, these people have more tea times than the bloody English." Now mind you I'm not at all familiar with that culture, so that could very well be a normal occurance for them. I also noticed something else. Not one woman said a word in the movie. You heard some background talking when you saw the women collecting stones in the raging river, but none of them really said anything of importance in the movie. And I have to admit I'm not quite sure what to make of that. Since I am naive to their culture, I'm not sure if it's because women don't have rights and therefore aren't allowed to have a speaking role, or if the director was trying to send a message to his audience. Honestly, I think it'd be interesting to find out what that answer is.
It was damn near heartbreaking at the end when he finally had the courage to go inside and the next thing you see is him helping them pack up to leave for Afghanistan. And as he is helping Baran pick up the goods that she dropped on the ground, I damn near cried when she had to throw that damn veil over her face. I thought to myself "dammit, I'm glad I don't have to live there." Shit man, how they treat women. And I'm not just saying that because I am a woman. I just feel like no one should have to suffer that kind of life. Hell, I'd be adverse to it even if men had to deal with that shit. It just ain't right in my book. Anyway, part of the ending still does kind of confuse me, and I'm almost afraid to admit to that b/c I don't want you to think I'm stupid or something. I'm not quite sure if we're supposed to believe something happened between those two or if he just went in there to divulge his feelings. Maybe my American thinking is getting in the way. Ya know, when the director leaves stuff to the imagination, I guess I'm used to thinking how we think on this side of the globe. So in trying to understand how they live, I know that if something like that did occur, that would make this girl unclean, which leads me to believe that he merely spent the rest of the day with her. But again, I'm not familiar with this particular director and am unsure if he's trying to send out another message. Ya know, perhaps I'll look up more information on this guy and see what kind of work he does...since any intelligent person would do such, heh. Then perhaps I'll undertand Majidi's thinking a bit more.
Again...thanks for the suggestion for the movie. I enjoy things that perplex me sometimes, gives me something to chew on, and I think I'll be thinking about this one for a while. Incidentally if you haven't seen a movie called Ed Wood, I suggest you see it. It's a movie with Johnny Depp, directed by Tim Burton. I don't know how you feel about either one of those people, but it's based on a true story and Depp did an excellent job in it. Well, when doesn't he do a good job. The movie itself didn't do so well at the box office, but it had a lot of heart. There's a lot of people out there that didn't like it, but I just love it. So if you haven't seen it, give that one a try.
Take care XG! Talk to ya soon.
Psolaris
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Yes it's far easier to talk like this. Sometimes my opinions get my posts "deleted". I won't call it censorship. I'll just call it anomalous things we never talk about. I'll let you figure out what to call it. Once upon a time, I was quite the gentleman and never cursed. Many times I felt like cussing up a storm but maintained some degree of civility. But, once I saw my posts magically disappear (coupled with personal messages that make me shiver from being creeped out), off came the gloves. Psolaris: I was already a troll for not wanting to shmooze at the altar of whedon. If this gets deleted, I won't be surprised. Nor could I care less.
If you want to talk with me you can do so publicly. You already know I'm an ass. I've admitted to as much. This little stunt proves it. Fuck it. If your ashamed to be talking with me publicly, don't dare to talk with me privately. I'm not a whedonesque fan. I'm a FFF.net fan. A fan of "Firefly". A "Firefly" fan.
You saw Amelie and you loved it. It's formulaic french filmery. Full of artloving and poetry. Except the storyline isn't a disconnected never-ending load of horseshit that only french people can relate to. Believe me, I've watched tons of french cinema and (when all of it taken as a whole) it's the most pooperific craptacular load of bullshittery this side of the universe. The french are ALWAYS full of themselves when it comes to their great artistic inner beauty. Narcissism. Montemarte was once a beautiful paradiso for art minded people. Now it's just a parisian burb like any other. The walls are caked with political grafitti, every building corner smells like a pisswell, and the people are foul, vile, disgusting selfish monsters who never learned the basics of human hygiene. Ahh how far they've strayed from the artsy reputation that once made them great. Amelie is a loveletter to their past. A desperate pleading for them to rediscover their soul. It was hated by the elites in france. Hell... they refused to allow it to be entered into the Cannes film festival. It just was too outside the norm of hollywood. And "hollywood" owns cannes. Unfortunately, it was too much loved by the dirty unwashed masses. It was like true art. You loved it, so now you are counted among those numbers. You're now touched by true art art and made impure. True art is always a painful conflicted sort of thing. Like weird sex involving pain and pleasure.
You saw Baran and you (1) hated it? (2) confused and conflicted about it? (3) hated it and are afraid to say so? (4) confused/conflicted and afraid to say so? ~ don't gimme the "I'm afraid you'll think I'm stupid" routine. Psolaris you truly disappoint me here. You're anything but stupid. You're one of the only people with a mind engaging enough to amuse and fascinate me.
I'll give you my take on that movie... (as well as my take on Ed Wood and J.Depp).
well... maybe later I will... I expect you'll be pissed at this. How dare I? But, you need an iota of guts to mince words with me. You're PM to me was an act of asskissing. What are you afraid of? Remains to be seen.
XG
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Well, you took my PM to you completely the wrong way. I am not, I repeat NOT ashamed to talk to you. I've posted on this site before that I enjoy talking to you and that I have a certain respect for you because I find you thought provoking.
YOU HEAR THAT EVERYONE! I ENJOY TALKING TO XG!
The reason I sent you a PM was because I was trying to respect everyone else on this site. You and I had started a personal conversation that didn't relate to the thread anymore, and I just figured it more appropriate to talk over PM than to keep digging up this old thread. Had nothing to do with being ashamed, because I'm not. No I'm not pissed at you, but it saddens me that you thought my intentions were bad.
As for Baran, I'm not afraid to say that I'm conflicted by the story. Hell, I even flat out said it in my email to you that some of it confused me and that I would need to do some further digging on my own to see if I can find out what message this director was giving. I freely admit that I'm naive to their culture. I'm sorry if I didn't want you to think me a cretin though because I was confused by it, but I'm not afraid to admit that I'm confused by it. Did I enjoy the movie...yes. Did I completely understand everything that happened...no. In the final paragraph of my letter I even thanked you for the movie suggestion since I enjoy things that make me think. Too many times in my life experience I've had people accuse me of being un-intelligent when I've admitted that I didn't quite understand something, and there was a part of me that was afraid you would jump to the same conclusion and for that I apologize. I should not have jumped to a conclusion myself, for as we all know, that tends to piss folk off and hurt feelings, and is a very juvenile act in my opinion.
If you wish to talk over this site, then I have no problem in doing that. I never did. And no, I'm not an ass kisser either. I never had been. That itself is an act that I loathe and you'll never catch me doing it. If you think that was my intention, well I guess I can't stop you. I simply thought that since we were having a personal conversation, we could message each other back and forth with some thought provoking insight. In all honesty I was looking forward to it. I would have done the same thing if it were any one else on this site and has nothing to do with what anyone else on here thinks of you.
I guess I can only hope you can give me enough respect, or at least some credit, to believe me.
Psolaris
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Not to interrupt your thought-provoking private conversation or anything, but I'm just curious . . . where do you two find all these foreign films? I have no idea where to get access to them. Could be because you two live in the States and I live in Canada. I don't know. But anyway, I would appreciate any advice either of you could give me in locating more foreign films.
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