Shepherd Book

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JAVIDRHO

Wednesday, July 9, 2003 1:09 PM

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Originally posted by Calhoun:

I like the relationship between Book and Jayne, they seem to have a lot in common.
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I think this was a type of warrior to warrior respect type of friendship developing and I was looking forward to seeing it unfold.

Anyone else thinking along these lines?

The reasons for their growing "bond" might be even more simple. They are both "men without women" and very little to do when Serenity is space bound.

Wash has his wife, Mal has his ship (and Inara), Simon has both his sister to care for and Kaylee to chat with. Book is a man of the cloth, so women are off limits for him, and Jayne is just too crude for any woman to want him.

Also, having spent months at sea myself, I know that unlikely friendships often develop between those trapped inside. People, who in the outside world, might never find a reason to bond, become friends when stuck together. I see this between Book and Jayne, like in OiS, when they were talking about sex in the galley, or in Message, when they were in the weight room talking about death. It all seemed very "real" to me...

CALHOUN

Wednesday, July 9, 2003 2:03 PM

Im glad to have some like minded souls in the verse.

SHEPHERDOFHERMAS

Friday, July 11, 2003 1:19 AM

I thought you were spot on!

Jayne and Book's relationship has the potential for some shiny, brilliant, awesome plot development.

It makes me think a bit of Joss Whedon's "Hush" for BtVS. It would be really powerful for the relationship to develop without too many words being spoken between them, but rather there would be actions and shared experiences that sealed their friendship.

Tell us more about how you see their relationship developing .... please.

CALHOUN

Friday, July 11, 2003 10:56 AM

I think it likely that if the show had continued we would have discovered that Book was indeed not really a shepherd(as Jubal Early said).

Book has some kind of connection to the Alliance as was evidenced in "Safe" when he was rushed on board the Alliance cruiser for treatment. My guess is that Book was or is affiliated with a government "Black Op" agency, something akin to CIA. This would explain his broad knowledge of weaponry, combat and crime, possibly even why he is now behaving as a shepherd(perhaps he saw to much death in his previous line of work).

This is my humble opinion.. If Joss ever reads this post please let me know if i'm on the right track. :)

JAVIDRHO

Friday, July 11, 2003 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by Calhoun:
I think it likely that if the show had continued we would have discovered that Book was indeed not really a shepherd(as Jubal Early said).

Book has some kind of connection to the Alliance as was evidenced in "Safe" when he was rushed on board the Alliance cruiser for treatment. My guess is that Book was or is affiliated with a government "Black Op" agency, something akin to CIA. This would explain his broad knowledge of weaponry, combat and crime, possibly even why he is now behaving as a shepherd(perhaps he saw to much death in his previous line of work).

I think that you're right, Book was some sort of high ranking lawman (or Black Ops guy, or maybe even a hitman) but I also think he really is a shepherd now, not just playing one. He is old enough to have given up a career in the law and then joined the ministry for the past few years.

Maybe because he did so much wrong for the Alliance, he finally "found his soul" and couldn't do it any longer. So he quit and joined the ministry to look for salvation, of one kind or another. But he couldn't find it in the abbey, so he decided to go back into the world, to try and find it there.

How does that sound?

CALHOUN

Friday, July 11, 2003 11:31 AM

Sounds about right pal. I wish there was some way we could know for sure what was planned..

JAVIDRHO

Friday, July 11, 2003 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by Calhoun:
Sounds about right pal. I wish there was some way we could know for sure what was planned..

Actually, I don't mind not knowing. Being a writer, I like trying to figure out things myself. Sometimes, when you learn the "truth" you find that your ideas were better then the creator's. I appreciate the fact that the Matrix creator's (Wachowski brothers) refuse to talk about their work. They want to leave it up to the audience to figure things out for themselves.

It can be frustrating, but think about it - movies and TV shows seldom give you anything to think about after the show has aired. I think it is a good writer who will leave some things up to the viewer's imagination. Also, if we had all the answers, we would not be talking about it right now, would we?

Imagination and curiosity are terrible things to waste. I, for one, would like to thank Joss and Company for boosting ours.

p.s. We will learn the truth about Book (and River, too) some day. One way or another, the truth will get out. Joss wants to continue this story, so if its possible, then he will do it. If not, and if FF finally is put to rest, then I'm sure Joss will be more than happy to answer our questions (let's hope that day never comes)...

CALHOUN

Friday, July 11, 2003 1:55 PM

I agree with what you are saying, to a certain extent. Most TV shows give you little to think about afterwards but Firefly is different. Every episode was superb and i'd like to believe that whatever Joss had planned would be better than any mere mortal mind could concieve.

JAVIDRHO

Friday, July 11, 2003 2:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Calhoun:
I agree with what you are saying, to a certain extent. Most TV shows give you little to think about afterwards but Firefly is different. Every episode was superb and i'd like to believe that whatever Joss had planned would be better than any mere mortal mind could concieve.

Let's hope so

JAVIDRHO

Friday, July 11, 2003 2:01 PM

oops - double post - sorry (dang mouse)

But, while I'm here, I saw in the thread "Utah House of Links" ( http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=2265) that Maniacnumerone has a site with lots of good observations about Book. Here it is: http://www.magicbishop.com
Why isn't he in this discussion?

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