Shepherd Book
POSTED BY: trekkerj
UPDATED: Saturday, December 13, 2003 03:12
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No need to appologise pal, everyone is entitled to an opinion regardless of the fact mine is the only opinion to count :) joking.
My favourites are Serenity, Ariel, Our Mrs Reynolds, Out of Gas and Objects in Space.
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We all have our faves, so no worries.
I am one who thinks "The Message" is brill and shiny and awesome. For me it doesn't miss a beat, and its conclusion on St Alban's was devastating and powerful.
I suppose I'm all for episodes that show stupid mistakes happening, showing how a life could be so messed up by the war that the poor soul didn't know what on Earth-that-was to do.
I suppose it is my own life's experience that makes me want to show folks that casualties from war keep happening long after the war's declared dead.
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I wasn't apologizing for my opinion, but I try to keep two things in mind. Excessive criticism can annoy the hell out of people and ruin their enjoyment of things, and I hate those discussions that get personal just because one person likes something and another doesn't.
But we're all obviously adults here, so no worries on that score.
Shepherd- Yeah, I go into that theme of postwar casualties in my Ghosts of Serenity fanfic. It's pretty compelling for me as well. That's why the episode irked me, because I feel that it didn't develop it enough. There was so much there that could have been worked with. Stretch it to a two-parter, and I probably would have been in ecstatics.
Anyway, back to that whacky Shepherd Book, I think he really was a high-dollar male Companion, and the flashback was from when he was doing bondage work.
Yeah, that'll be totally unexpected. Except I ruined the surprise.
There ain't nothin' I can't overcome or come to know. So lay your heavy load down on me, strip everything I have away. I am not your prisoner, I am not afraid.
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There is no indication that Early knew Book. All Early said was that Book was no shepard. This could have been because he knew who Book was, but also because Book did not look nor act like your standard Shepard. There is insufficient data to determine which of these alternatives are correct.
As for him being an Alliance officer, general, etc. again, I gotta say that this is Joss we are talking about. The obvious answer is hardly ever right.
Of course, that may be just what he wants me to think, so I would overlook that answer.
"my kind of stupid"
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Archer! Book a male companion LOL.. never even considered that one.. could be, could be.
I am glad I found this web site cause being an Aussie and Firefly never having been shown here its hard to find folk to talk to about it.
I tell ya one thing I have done is to create a vcd which is an edited collage of all of my favourite scenes in Firefly. I only managed to fit 4 episodes on 1x80 min vcd and it was sooo hard to chop bits out cause its all good, the end result is cool though, I pop it into my DVD player and VOILA! 80 mins of the best bits Wahhooo!
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Originally posted by Archer:
... Stretch it to a two-parter, and I probably would have been in ecstatics.
Anyway, back to that whacky Shepherd Book, I think he really was a high-dollar male Companion, and the flashback was from when he was doing bondage work.
I would have loved it as a two parter. I have wondered if the DVD will include deleted scenes, bits and pieces. I certainly hope so.
BOOK AS A FORMER COMPANION!?!?! === actually I think that's brilliant. The mind boggles
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Originally posted by Drakon:
There is no indication that Early knew Book. All Early said was that Book was no shepard. This could have been because he knew who Book was, but also because Book did not look nor act like your standard Shepard. There is insufficient data to determine which of these alternatives are correct.
Yeah, given how unsettled the various theories of Jubal are as well. The common sentiment seems to be that he's a River-type modified human, but who knows? He knew everyone's names, so if nothing else, perhaps he had access to information from various channels and knew more about Book from that.
Calhoun- Hey, where at in Australia? I have a buddy who lives in Sidney. We've got a couple of Aussie fans who show up in the IRC occasionally. You guys have corrupted my language, dammit. Got me wandering around saying "Too right" and "Spot on" and so on.
Oh yeah, and what sorta scenes did you dump in your favorites compilation?
Shepherd- Yeah, cut-scenes and all might make it work for me better as well.
As for the Companion thing... I was typing that up and sitting there thinking... what has nobody else suggested that I know of?
A thunderbolt struck from the heavens, yea, the very heavens and this voice spaketh thusly "Have you ever considered Man-Whore?"
So I says "Well geez, yeah, I'm a bit short on cash right now, but still there are better ways to make money..."
And it says "No, BOOK you dolt!"
So I says "Well, I'm sure he's sexy and all, but he's really not my type..."
And it says "I give up. I just fricking give up."
There ain't nothin' I can't overcome or come to know. So lay your heavy load down on me, strip everything I have away. I am not your prisoner, I am not afraid.
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Book and Jayne are sides of a coin.
The thought that our telepathic River caught from Book was the same kind of thought she caught from Jayne: something troubling to him, that would come to mind often, something that made him feel guilty. Just as Jayne's guilty thought was triggered by River's presence, Book's guilty thought might have been triggered somehow by circumstance. Was it because he was laughing and hanging out with a fellow thug? Is his guilt from being a mobster, a hit-man with organized crime connections?
firearms expert
intimate knowledge of criminal activities
influence in high places
desire to keep a low profile
So, let's fill in the fictional blanks.
After the war, the Alliance was able to look closer to enforcing the law, and organized crime had to curtail operations in the interest of survival. It didn't go away, however; too many Alliance officers and officials were involved already. Some crimebosses went 'independent', heading to the frontier where their old-fashioned methods were still effective.
With the TITANing up of organized crime in the core worlds, many of the old guard were forced into retirement. Those who didn't want to retire, or knew too much about their bosses to be allowed to retire anywhere but the grave, filtered out to the frontier. Here they were employed by the brutal independent crime bosses.
Some, however, came to the frontier to hide. Henry Booker was one of those. Called 'the Book' by organized crime, his career of assassination-for-hire came to an end one sunny afternoon when a hit team tried to remove him from 'play'. His survival was more luck than skill, forcing him into a realization: he had to disappear or die.
Entering the Brotherhood was, at first, simply a step to that end. By the end of his first year in the Abbey, Book was a changed man. Like most killers, he had justified his murders by telling himself that all men were guilty of something;
"I don't give a hump if you're innocent or not. What do you think of that?"
in the Abbey he'd come to realize that what he had ended was each man's potential for innocence. Book threw himself into his newfound calling, spending years reinventing himself and forgetting what he had left behind. . . but he was not forgotten.
One day, an enterprising young bountyhunter had come to the Abbey, planning to bag 'the Book' and move himself up in his syndicate. After the encounter ended badly, Book and his Abbot agreed that some time in the world, travelling and spreading the word, might be the best possible course. Shepard Book soon found himself dragging his worldly possessions through a dusty frontier spaceport, looking for a smuggler's ship to be his haven, and his opportunity for redemption. . .
Take my love
Take my land
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Originally posted by Wulfhawk:
With the TITANing up of organized crime in the core worlds,
Some day, my friend, some day...
Where'd I put thet there durn axe handle?
(For the rest... Wulf just slapped me with an inside joke. Feel free to disregard.)
There ain't nothin' I can't overcome or come to know. So lay your heavy load down on me, strip everything I have away. I am not your prisoner, I am not afraid.
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