Firefly Chinese Translations

Gorram

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Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:08 AM

'Frell' and 'dren', since you asked


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Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:15 AM

Just to throw my two-peneth worth in:
I think its Gorram as in Goddamn...
They use it the same way as Goddamn and when I first heard it thats even what I thought they said.
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Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:43 AM

I think its goddamn just cowboy western-ized slang. Rather then being 2 syllables its brought down to 1. It doesn't seem to be like "frel" is for farscape. They wouldn't have made it sound so much like god-damn were that the case. I just think its too close to godd-damn to be a totally made up word, be too much of a coincidence. My opinion.

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Thursday, September 15, 2005 3:19 AM

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Originally posted by inaraserra888:
I am fluent in Chinese also, AND I looked in the official site -

http://fireflychinese.home.att.net/

- where they define the Chinese words used on the series and the movie, and Goram is not listed.

From the first time I heard it, I believed it to replace "God damn" as one previous poster said.



I'm glad my site is useful, but it's certainly not official.

To add a little to what's been said:

Not only are there "gorram," "gorrammit," "gorram it"/the telling "gorramN it," and "I don't give a good gorram," but "gorram" never appears in the scripts as "(Chinese)" or with English to be translated. It also never gets italicized in the DVD subtitles the way "bao bei" and the other dozen or so Chinese words they write out are. It's English, of a sort--almost certainly "goddamn."

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Wednesday, November 23, 2005 7:11 PM

FYI all of you, in 'Finding Serinity', it is listed in the appendix of the Chinese explitive translations as a corruption of goddamn. Don't have the book in front of me now but I believe that te appendix was written by the writer who originally provided them (phrases) for the series. Hope y'all find this useful.

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R1Z
Thursday, November 24, 2005 12:55 AM

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Well then that would make the license plates on my truck say "Dog testicles"? Maybe they should have let me keep "Dong ma" like I wanted! LOL!


They wouldn't give you "Dong Ma" but gave you "Gorram?" This sounds like a story we need to hear!!

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Thursday, November 24, 2005 2:29 AM

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Originally posted by EvieSerenity:
"lan" also means "bad,screwed,rotten" in Mandrain

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Thursday, November 24, 2005 3:11 AM

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Originally posted by R1Z:
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Well then that would make the license plates on my truck say "Dog testicles"? Maybe they should have let me keep "Dong ma" like I wanted! LOL!


They wouldn't give you "Dong Ma" but gave you "Gorram?" This sounds like a story we need to hear!!



The state of Ohio came to the conclusion that DONG MA could be offensive and since the plates represent the people of and the state of Ohio, they could not honor my request.

I told them that I was saddened by their lack of cultural understanding and diversity, as DONG MA meant, ironically, DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME? I then proceeded to tell them that I was not interested in wasting time and taxpayer's money in order to drag them through a lawsuit, but if they'd consider GORRAM as an alternative, I would be placated.

Now keep in mind, it took them 2 weeks to say no to DONG MA. In under 12 hours, I was approved for GORRAM.

And wouldn't you know, the day I went to put them on my truck, one plate cut my finger and I literally said "Gorram license plate!" as I grabbed my lacerated finger before I paused briefly and then laughed at myself.



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Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:40 PM

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Originally posted by JSaats:
FYI all of you, in 'Finding Serinity', it is listed in the appendix of the Chinese explitive translations as a corruption of goddamn. Don't have the book in front of me now but I believe that te appendix was written by the writer who originally provided them (phrases) for the series. Hope y'all find this useful.



Well, not quite. The part about "gorram" isn't in the glossary but in the essay "Chinese Words in the 'Verse." I know because I wrote that essay and put together the glossary, so that "goddamn" explanation is no more official than my post earlier in this thread.

Jenny Lynn, the Chinese translator, answered a bunch of questions for me about the Chinese, but she didn't check the roughly 100 translations in the glossary (and on my site).

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Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:51 PM

Yes. Along with Gorram meaning Goddamn I'm sure your imagination can tell you what "Ruttin'" means.

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