Tim Minear reveals another unfilmed FF episode
POSTED BY: Blinker
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 07:31
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So Inara raped by 50 reavers. Wow, a sick story - good thing they never filmed that.
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Wow Fightthefuture.. I can see it.. I can feel it and it is uncomfortable and agonizing and ultimately full of redemption..
oh the places Joss and Tim might have taken us.. we will never really know.. but yes- it would have been profound and special and we would have gone along... on every journey.
Chindi (impressed by the level of writing and thought in this fansite.)
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What with the level of escalation required of tv shows, I can't imagine this happening anytime soon. It's so extreme, if they did this during season 1 they could never shock us again for 6 more seasons, espcially since our existing benchmark for torture is what the Academy did to River.
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The Academy's torture of River wasn't really that bad. It was really high tech, brain surgery and downloading stuff directly into the brain. The Academy River attended probably looks like a five star hotel compared to what it was like when it was first built.
"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam
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It would be a great opportunity to maim Inara. Her profession depends a lot on her appearance, I wonder if she could still be a Companion if she gets "uglied up."
Dude, that's just wrong on so many levels, I'm not even going to get into it....
Of course it's wrong, which is why it would make a great story.
"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam
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From accounts of a writing seminar he taught last week:
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http://www.livejournal.com/users/_eb/83667.html#cutid1
Did anyone happen to get videos of either the class or the interview? Both sound pretty interesting to watch...I guess I need to move to LA
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Originally posted by Giantevilhead:
The Academy's torture of River wasn't really that bad. It was really high tech, brain surgery and downloading stuff directly into the brain. The Academy River attended probably looks like a five star hotel compared to what it was like when it was first built.
You can't be serious. I wrote a long reply full of reasoning and comparisons of Academy and Reaver methods, but my mind still boggles, so I deleted it.
They physically took out part of her brain so she'll never again be able to repress emotion, and gave her horribly traumatic memories that she won't ever be able to stop herself from reliving. That's "not really that bad"? What do you think is "that bad"?
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Originally posted by Giantevilhead:
The Academy's torture of River wasn't really that bad. It was really high tech, brain surgery and downloading stuff directly into the brain. The Academy River attended probably looks like a five star hotel compared to what it was like when it was first built.
You can't be serious. I wrote a long reply full of reasoning and comparisons of Academy and Reaver methods, but my mind still boggles, so I deleted it.
They physically took out part of her brain so she'll never again be able to repress emotion, and gave her horribly traumatic memories that she won't ever be able to stop herself from reliving. That's "not really that bad"? What do you think is "that bad"?
They implanted conditioning into her mind. How do you think they would condition her if they didn't have that technology? They would actually force her to do all that stuff, they probably would have forced her to actually kill people.
Removing a part of her brain to enhance her psychic abilities is a quick fix. If they didn't lobotomize her they would have to train her to use her psychic abilities and knowing the Alliance, the training would probably be far more painful and traumatic than having a piece of her brain removed.
My guess is that students trained at the Academy in its early days are far more messed up than River.
"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam
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My guess is that students trained at the Academy in its early days are far more messed up than River.
Great. We haven't seen them. What we have seen is River being tortured horribly, and I'm arguing that seeing Inara having been gang-raped by Reavers would be more shocking, to the point where they wouldn't put both of those in season 1, for fear of not being able to shock us later.
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I have a hard time picturing Joss taking the "sex = death" metaphor to such a cheesy level.
Or using the "female sexuality and empowerment = death" cliche *at all*. Vagina dentata indeed.
Seriously, Joss has stressed in Inara that sensuality and sexuality is not a bad thing, I honestly can't see him abusing her to such an extent.
Joss, for all his faults, is more subtle than that. Early's threat to Kaylee is so powerful, because it isn't overdone, he's not twirling a big black moustache and sneering and posturing. It's a scary fuckin' scene for us and for Kaylee, because it's so subtle.
A bunch of reavers gang raping Inara sounds like a really bad fanfic, much in the vein of a bunch of reavers gang raping Jayne. It's a cheap plot device to break a character so that they can rebuild them in the way they want.
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"He's hurting a woman, he really *is* a bad guy... and I wouldn't call him a gentleman."
- Kyle, 9, watching 'Serenity'.
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