Tim Minear reveals another unfilmed FF episode
POSTED BY: Blinker
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 07:31
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You'd think after the third or fourth Reaver died of rape-itis they'd have tossed her out an airlock?... ;)
Can't imagine an episode like that would have ever made it on air anyway.
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Originally posted by Giantevilhead:
It would be a great opportunity to maim Inara. Her profession depends a lot on her appearance, I wonder if she could still be a Companion if she gets "uglied up."
Dude, that's just wrong on so many levels, I'm not even going to get into it....
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uh... wasn't the syringe just for suicide in case of reaver attack?
"That's why I never kiss 'em on the mouth."
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No Joss says on the dvd audio commentanry that that isn't what it is, most people didn't think about it til then but it started alot of speculation over what it was.
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Originally posted by Tiger:
Oh my GAWWWD. :-( I'm almost glad we never saw that episode; I don't know if I could stand seeing Inara broken that way.
She's my favorite character, and imagining this episode makes me understand better the people who abandoned Whedon altogether after he killed Wash.
I'd never take it that far, but I uderstand the impulse.
The most powerful storytelling will move you in such a way that you never thought possible. It makes you face everyday fears that you hope you'll never have to face. I understand why people like "safe" entertainment in which no one is seriously hurt, the good guy wins in the end without corrupting his moral values, and everybody's happy and rides off into the sunset. I understand why people like that. It makes them feel good. But then there's the type of entertainment that makes you feel things you hope you don't have to feel. It makes you take a hard look at life and the world we live in. It makes you think. And it may even inspire you to do something to change the real world for the better.
Honestly, if this episode ever got made and aired, I would've been devastated by it. It would've taken me completely by surprise. I would've been shocked for days, maybe even weeks. But that's how much I'm drawn into Firefly/Serenity and the characters in it. I feel for them. And as the next episodes dealt with the situation and the characters came to grips with what had occured and faced it down, I would've been right there with them. Because I'm sure with an event that tragic, the episodes to follow would've continued to tell powerful stories. And it'd be interesting to see where things would go from there.
That's why I watch and love Battlestar Galactica. It has that same type of storytelling. In fact, in the last couple of episodes, we found another Battlestar which had taken one of Six's clones prisoner. We found out that'd she'd been severely beaten and repeatedly raped. And you know what, it pissed me off. It made me hate the people who did that to her. It made me feel for Six as she looked upon her clone with tears in her eyes. It also made me wonder who really was worse -- Humans or Cylons? Are the Cylons justified in exterminating a people capable of such atrocities? Guess what, that's still a question I haven't answered yet. I'm still thinking about it. That's why I love this type of entertainment. It makes a real impact on me.
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Quote:You're preaching to the choir here - I love BSG too and for the same reasons.
Originally posted by SadLittleKing:
The most powerful storytelling will move you in such a way that you never thought possible... That's why I watch and love Battlestar Galactica. It has that same type of storytelling... It makes a real impact on me.
There's no doubt the Inara/Reaver storyline would've been powerful, but it sure would have hurt to watch. I just like Inara too much for me not to be a little frightened by the thought of it.
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Originally posted by Tiger:
You're preaching to the choir here - I love BSG too and for the same reasons.
There's no doubt the Inara/Reaver storyline would've been powerful, but it sure would have hurt to watch. I just like Inara too much for me not to be a little frightened by it.
It definately would've frightened me. I was frightened watching Kaylee's reaction to Early's question, "You ever been raped, Kaylee?" That was tough to watch. I understand why, in the DVD commentary, it was revealed that Joss was a hated man the day that was filmed. But it was a powerful moment. It really shook me. And it stuck with me. And it's still not easy to watch. But that's storytelling in its highest form. Art imitates life, as they say. Anything could happen at anytime, whether triumphunt or tragic.
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This could have been such a tremendous episode. I can see it in three acts:
I) Mel/Inara tension setup; the attack of the Reavers and the talking of Inara.
II) The decision to try to save her, or her remains as Jayne would state she is gone and the ensuing mayhem to do so.
III) Her return to Serenity, broken in body, mind and spirit. This act would dwell on what she meant to others, especially Mel and his regrets; his kissing her hand, his loss of her.
In the meantime, Simon would be able to heal her body, but who could heal her mind, her spirit? I would see River being capable, broken herself, but broken with the gift of preternatural perception and a hyper-genius intellect. She can pull out the broken fragments of Inara's mind via talk-therapy (of a sort) to help her pull it back together, with some help from Simon using 25th century psychotropic drugs, and perhaps a word of wisdom or two from Reverend Brooks and everyone else.
This episode would further the value of River and Simon to the crew; the mystery/capabilities of River to do good, to heal; the heroism of the crew; the value of Inara to all, especially Mel. It would also showcase the ultimate strength of Inara, for to even survive what happened, the gang rape by a bunch of sociopathic Reavers, you have to be supremely strong and capable in the first place
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Originally posted by SadLittleKing:
another Battlestar which had taken one of Six's clones prisoner.
Till I read this, I was thinking this whole story was filled with the moans of the couch.
Yup, could be, and Joss would have done it even better, as always. I don't much like the idea of this horrid plot device. It gets really tiresome that in any story it's liable to be an undercurrent of danger and violence only for female characters, and when it does happen to a male character (Bushwacked) it isn't mentioned or alluded to at all in the script.
If it's true, Tim should get so spanked for giving it away, extra lashes because he said 'what's he gonna do, fire me'.
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Originally posted by Grounded:
You'd think after the third or fourth Reaver died of rape-itis they'd have tossed her out an airlock?... ;)
Can't imagine an episode like that would have ever made it on air anyway.
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