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Originally posted by GazerBeam:
I'm close, I've just got "Out of Scotch". Oh, and no wife. And the DVD's are on loan...
Empty, empty life...
HAHAHAHAHA!
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I wish I had a magical wish-granting plank.
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You could eat a burrito. Then you wouldn't be....out of gas! Ha Ha! Get it?! Burrito, gas?! *nudge nudge* Get it?!
"Out of Scotch". That one's genuinely funny. Points for you.
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Originally posted by TheSentinel:
Also, I think Universal is smart enough to realize this is an exponential growth film. A sequel would do much better.
I'm prone to agree. Here's one piece of evidence I find pretty impressive. Okay, folks, who here has seen The Terminator? Moneywise, you'd think it did pretty well, wouldn't you? The theatrical count, according to the-numbers.com for The Terminator= $38,019,031 Even counting inflation, that's not just a super impressive number for a movie that's so incredibly well-known/beloved. Not to mention that it's total gross comes in *gasp* a little under Serenity's current total.
Okay, now go forward a few years, Terminator 2 hits theaters, it's total gross= $204,843,345. How'd that happen?
I'm thinking that to say a Serenity 2 could overwhelm Serenity's box office take isn't so far-fetched. Obviously, it's happened before.
Note: yes, The Terminator had a much smaller budget than Serenity, about 6.5 million vs. 39 million, but given that Serenity is already in the Amazon top sellers list, I'm going to be optimistic and say that DVD sales will ensure that the BDM gets profitable.
"Did the captain seem a little funny to you this morning?"
"Kaylee, everyone knows I'm the funny one."
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Excellent point re: Terminator. It got a huge following on cable (me) and video (my husband). And it had no pre-existing fan base.
T2 did have a great big star, though.
Casting a star in the Serenity sequel could probably get it made easily.
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There are several cases of movies that didn't hit big in theatres becoming big on video/DVD, and later getting sequels. Unfortunetly, most of them were made for much less than Serenity, thus making the profit margin much greater.
I think Terminator is a dodgy comparison to make, since by the time Terminator 2 came around, Arnold had become the biggest star in the world at that time, and James Cameron had developed quite a bit more clout as a director. Add to that the fact that the Terminator dealt with nuclear holocaust brought on by a computer-run-amok durring the height of the cold war, at the beginning of the computer boom, and it tapped into the social conciousness in a way I doubt Serenity will ever do. And it still took 7 years to get T2 made.
Not to be a naysayer, since I do think our chances for a sequel are decent. But unless Captain tighpants becomes Tom Cruise (in popularity, not psycosis) and Joss directs a mega-hit or two, I don't think there's too much paralell.
I was hoping to posit Pitch Black as a closer parallel, given that it was a sci-fi film with no big names (at that time), but it had a budget half as big as Serenity, and made $15 million more, so no dice there. And even then, Vin Disel had to become a much bigger star before a sequel got made.
I read somewhere that Joss had planned to do Serenity for somewhere in the $20 million range, but that Universal offered him a bigger budget and he took it. I wonder now, had it been made for less, would a sequel already be in the works?
"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."
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Good read. Thanks for the link, glad to see universal are happy with the film and its earnings. This line stood out for me:
"I think over $10 million is a lot of business for a niche appeal picture."
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But wasn't it Terminator that put Arnold on the map? With Nathan doing another film right around the corner, is it not possible that he could develop some additional star power? Maybe Nathan could carry a sequel all by himself...
Adam
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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
The Process Course of the Virus known as the "Serenity/Firefly Syndrome"
12. Bought on-line tickets to Serenity that I couldn't attend...like Anchorage, Alaska.
13. Bought Serenity/Firefly stuff for local library.
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Originally posted by TheSentinel:
But wasn't it Terminator that put Arnold on the map? With Nathan doing another film right around the corner, is it not possible that he could develop some additional star power? Maybe Nathan could carry a sequel all by himself...
Adam
Right.
I'm not sure where Arnold's fame all came from, but in respect to a parallel with Serenity:
The cast are still working on other projects, gaining a bit more recognition (Nathan, Gina, and Alan being at the top of that list, I think) and Joss is about to undertake two projects that could really come out big. I mean, Wonderwoman is something that folk will flock to just because they do that when you make a famous comic book character into a live action movie.
So, yeah, Terminator 2 owes a lot to Arnold's fame and James Cameron's clout, but I don't think it's justifiable to say that by the time Joss is in a position (at least schedule-wise) to do a sequel, all of our BDHs will still be lesser known names. Just think: Wonderwoman and Slither smash the box offices and everyone starts thinking "I wonder what else Joss and Nathan have done?"
Yes, I admit, I'm excessively optimistic about the whole thing.
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I mean, Wonderwoman is something that folk will flock to just because they do that when you make a famous comic book character into a live action movie.
Tell that to Elektra.
I'm not saying it can't happen, just that the chances of Joss and Nathan both becoming HUGE mainstream stars in the next couple of years is a long shot.
I mean sure, I plan to see Slither, but I really doubt it'll be a cultural phenomenon.
"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."
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