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Sunday, November 13, 2005 5:20 PM

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=1910&p=.htm

Did anyone else note that Universal's head of distribution said they were "satisfied" with the opening of the film and that it was "where they thought it would be".

If it met expectations, might not we expect opportunities for a sequel? Regardless of whether Ms. Rocco would comment on the possibility of a sequel, I think the number speak for themselves.

Also, I think Universal is smart enough to realize this is an exponential growth film. A sequel would do much better.

I mean really, have we LOST any browncoats along the way...or do we just keep getting stronger?

Adam

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Sunday, November 13, 2005 5:28 PM

Interesting article. Don't think I saw it before.

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Originally posted by TheSentinel:
I mean really, have we LOST any browncoats along the way...or do we just keep getting stronger?

Not intending to start any "fights" here, but I'd have to say YEAH, I think we've lost some BrownCoats along the way. Maybe more than a few, by the look of things. On the flip side, there are also a bunch of people who've recently "found" the show, too. Is it a wash? (heh, no pun intended)

Not captioned for the sarcasm impaired

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Sunday, November 13, 2005 5:56 PM

I doubt you lost any Browncoats because of the movie. Matter of fact, I suspect the fanbase has grown major since the movie Serenity came out.

I discovered Serenity and Firefly 3 weeks ago and I am neurotically obsessed by it exactly like all the other people I've introduced Firefly to; 43 people to be precise, so I think that the movie "Serenity" served as a gateway to firefly, and most people seem to love it right away.

Most people that I pestered to go to see Serenity were like me, they've never even heard of Firefly, and they considered themselves hardened scifi fans, but after seeing Serenity, they ran out and purcahsed firefly, or I purchased it for them, and they watched all the episodes multiple times, and now, they won't shutup talking about firefly when I later see them.

My point is that I am one person, and this one person watched Serenity 3 weeks ago and right after that watched the whole Firefly series, and then infected her friends with it, so that THEY ran out and watched Serenity, and then purchased Firefly and so on. So I suspect that Universal is very happy with this, and we might just get another movie, or maybe a series, because this thing is a money maker for them.

The Process Course of the Virus known as the "Serenity/Firefly Syndrome"

1. Complete denial of the existence of the movie and the series.

2. 1st viewing of Serenity causing brainlock - "What the hell is this?" Syndrome.

3. Obsessive thoughts regarding the movie Serenity - Beginning obsessive behavior.

4. Wonderment of the characters in the movie Serenity - Giving life to obsessive behavior.

5. Google search of Serenity - Searching for another fix behavior.

6. The discovery of Firefly - The obsession deepens.

7. Purchase Firefly and watch 3 episodes - The point of no return behavior.

8. Watched every episode multiple times and starts to get angry about the cancellation of the show after 14 episodes - The Beginning of the End Behavior.

8. Talk to friends about Serenity/Firefly - Won't Shut Up about it Syndrome.

9. Joins forum, reads about Firefly/serenity, downloads podcasts, leaves emotionally written posts in forums - You are the Slave of Joss Syndrome.

10. Purchases FF the Complete Series, books, soundtracks for all your friends, even for those who hate scifi and life in general - Spreading the Virus Syndrome.

11. Unreasonable, emotionally charged anger at companies like FOX and Universal - "How could they do this to us" Syndrome.







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Sunday, November 13, 2005 6:30 PM

Well, assuming the head of distribution's comment wasn't just spin, I would say they were satisfied with the opening. My guess is they weren't satisfied with the revenue that came in afterward. Are any of us? Before the release I really thought by this point we'd have our 80 million worldwide. And I think we have about half that.

The DVD sales will almsost certainly put SERENITY "in the black" but since we know the theatrical B.O. isn't going to be enough to guarantee a sequel it now falls to DVD sales to get a one greenlighted. Will it be enough? Only time and Universal will tell.

It's happening more and more that movies that don't do all that well at the box office get sequels because of the DVD sales. I'm not getting my hopes up for a SERENITY 2. Because my hunch is the DVD revenue won't be enough and because I'm a pessimist by nature--ironically one of the few things I was optimistic about was that SERENITY would gross 80 mil worldwide (go figure). But the referee hasn't counted to ten and the fat lady has yet to sing. We can still have Faith and Hope (and Trick).

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Sunday, November 13, 2005 6:34 PM

Well, assuming the head of distribution's comment wasn't just spin, I would say they were satisfied with the opening. My guess is they weren't satisfied with the revenue that came in afterward. Are any of us? What I had heard was that Universal wanted 80 million worldwide. And I think we have about half that.

The DVD sales will almost certainly put SERENITY "in the black" but since we know the theatrical B.O. isn't going to be enough to guarantee a sequel it now falls to DVD sales to get one greenlighted. Will it be enough? Only time and Universal will tell.

It's happening more and more that movies that don't do all that well at the box office get sequels because of the DVD sales. I'm not getting my hopes up for a SERENITY 2 because my hunch is the DVD revenue won't be enough and because I'm a pessimist by nature--ironically one of the few things I was optimistic about was that SERENITY would gross 80 mil worldwide (go figure). But the referee hasn't counted to ten and the fat lady has yet to sing. We can still have Faith and Hope (and Trick).

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Sunday, November 13, 2005 7:25 PM

DVD sales will DEFINITELY be enough...YOu can take that to the bank!

Adam

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Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:31 PM

I hope you're right. But I want to make sure I understand you correctly. You're saying that "I can take it to the bank" that DVD sales will be enough that Universal (or any other studio) will greenlight a SERENITY sequel.

I am interpreting that to mean you are saying that I can "take it to the bank" that there will be a feature-length theatrically, domestically released movie that is beyond a reasonable doubt a sequel (or prequel) to SERENITY.

Do I understand you correctly?

If so, I am willing to bet you 1 (one) copy of the SERENITY DVD and 1 (one) copy the super-extra-special-ultra-deluxe edition of the SERENITY DVD (should there be one) that you're wrong.

Comic Books don't count.

If there's a Straight-to-DVD or a Made-for-TV SERENITY sequel (prequels count in this scenario and all others described below), it wouldn't be a theatrically released movie. But it would be live-action sequel to SERENITY so it'll be a partial win for you. Let's say you win ten bucks.

An animated cartoon series set in the FIREFLY 'verse counts as a partial win for you.

If miracle upon miracle there is a new live-action FIREFLY/SERENITY series that retains as a regular at least one (1) of the original nine (9) characters--you win. That means that if another actor should play the part of one (1) of the orginal nine (9) characters (a sacrilege) it's still a full win for you.

If there is a series set in the FIREFLY 'verse but has none of the orginal nine (9), that'll be a partial win--ten bucks for you. If one of the orginal nine (9) shows up a guest star--still just a partial win.

If for some reason there should be a theatrically, domestically released feature length movie that is set in the FIREFLY 'verse but has none of the original cast members (hard to imagine) that'll count as a full win for you, 'cause hey, it's a movie.

If there is a live action Made-for-TV or Straight-to-DVD sequel for the domestic audience, but gets released overseas theatrically, that's only partial win for you.

If there is a theatrically released movie that plays in a few domestic cities (Toronto counts) but ends up not getting a nationwide release--that counts. You win.

If there is a straight to DVD movie and some movie theatre independently shows it on the big screen that doesn't count as a theatrical release.

Just to make it understood there are no conditions under which I partially win. I win a copy of the DVD and the Special Edition DVD (if there is one) if there are no further FIREFLY/SERENITY 'verse stories at all or if they only continue in comics.

Obviously it will take a year or two or three to make sure one of has won. So save your SERENITY DVD receipts.

In spite of all the lawyery contingencies I thought of I consider this a friendly bet among fellow Browncoats that I hope I lose.

Whaddaya say?

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Monday, November 14, 2005 12:10 AM

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But the referee hasn't counted to ten and the fat lady has yet to sing. We can still have Faith and Hope (and Trick).


Yup, I'm a fat lady and the only singin' I've been doing is the praises of both the "Firefly" and "Serenity"!

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Monday, November 14, 2005 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:

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The Process Course of the Virus known as the "Serenity/Firefly Syndrome"

1. Complete denial of the existence of the movie and the series.

2. 1st viewing of Serenity causing brainlock - "What the hell is this?" Syndrome.

3. Obsessive thoughts regarding the movie Serenity - Beginning obsessive behavior.

4. ...




I am in agreement with RiveR6213. I believe that the fanbase has undergone a net increase since the BDM.

I was at my fifth viewing of the BDM (MalsWay's sixth viewing) last night. About sixty in the audience, and about one-quarter of them FIRST TIMERS, based on the "ooh ahh laugh cry yes no -s" coming from the audience. About the same ratio as when I saw it the second or third time (not being as in shock as the first time I saw it).

I overheard somebody explaining to somebody else about the series after hearing "That was a TV show! Whoa! I never saw it!" Heh heh.

We Browncoats are slowly growing in numbers and we will be taking over.

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Monday, November 14, 2005 12:26 AM

BATMARLOWE

I'm sure we'll both be happy the day you have to pay up! YOU ARE SO ON!

Adam :)

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