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Monday, November 14, 2005 12:28 AM

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Originally posted by batmarlowe:
Well, assuming the head of distribution's comment wasn't just spin, I would say they were satisfied with the opening.


well no one mentioned 'Doom' in the article
(which was also made by Universal),
but that cost twice as much as 'Serenity'
and it isn't doing nearly as well...

so I imagine it makes Universal see that 'Serenity' isn't doing so bad,
and will probably turn a profit within the next year,
and they may (I'm betting they will) green light a sequel in two years....
after all, if this fan base keeps growing as it has been
(with replays of 'Firefly' on Sci-fi channel feeding the fanbase,
plus the DVD & eventual television premier of 'Serenity' adding to the fandom,
they could expect the sequel to do MUCH better.


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Monday, November 14, 2005 1:09 AM

Isn't that article too "old" to mention DOOM in the first place? I think SERENITY will make Universal a modest profit because of the DVD sales. It's just that I fear it will be too modest for a sequel.

Although, here's another way in which I could be wrong. Assuming Universal will track DVD rentals (not just bulk sales to rental outlets but individual rentals) that would be another sign of encouragement because I have a feeling SERENITY will be one of those movies that people heard good stuff about but just not strong enough stuff for them to go out and see it (unfortunately) but will discover it at the video store. Word of mouth spreads among the general audience, rentals and purchases increase, Universal sees it has a wider audience now. They know Joss can bring a movie in on time and on budget (a big plus, especially if he does the same with WONDER WOMAN) and so they say go ahead--at least we won't lose money.

But my gut feeling is that the B.O. was just too big a letdown for Universal to greenlight a sequel.

Here's hoping I'm wrong.

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Monday, November 14, 2005 1:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by batmarlowe:
I hope you're right. But I want to make sure I understand you correctly. You're saying that "I can take it to the bank" that DVD sales will be enough that Universal (or any other studio) will greenlight a SERENITY sequel.

I am interpreting that to mean you are saying that I can "take it to the bank" that there will be a feature-length theatrically, domestically released movie that is beyond a reasonable doubt a sequel (or prequel) to SERENITY.

Do I understand you correctly?

If so, I am willing to bet you 1 (one) copy of the SERENITY DVD and 1 (one) copy the super-extra-special-ultra-deluxe edition of the SERENITY DVD (should there be one) that you're wrong.

Comic Books don't count.

If there's a Straight-to-DVD or a Made-for-TV SERENITY sequel (prequels count in this scenario and all others described below), it wouldn't be a theatrically released movie. But it would be live-action sequel to SERENITY so it'll be a partial win for you. Let's say you win ten bucks.

An animated cartoon series set in the FIREFLY 'verse counts as a partial win for you.

If miracle upon miracle there is a new live-action FIREFLY/SERENITY series that retains as a regular at least one (1) of the original nine (9) characters--you win. That means that if another actor should play the part of one (1) of the orginal nine (9) characters (a sacrilege) it's still a full win for you.

If there is a series set in the FIREFLY 'verse but has none of the orginal nine (9), that'll be a partial win--ten bucks for you. If one of the orginal nine (9) shows up a guest star--still just a partial win.

If for some reason there should be a theatrically, domestically released feature length movie that is set in the FIREFLY 'verse but has none of the original cast members (hard to imagine) that'll count as a full win for you, 'cause hey, it's a movie.

If there is a live action Made-for-TV or Straight-to-DVD sequel for the domestic audience, but gets released overseas theatrically, that's only partial win for you.

If there is a theatrically released movie that plays in a few domestic cities (Toronto counts) but ends up not getting a nationwide release--that counts. You win.

If there is a straight to DVD movie and some movie theatre independently shows it on the big screen that doesn't count as a theatrical release.

Just to make it understood there are no conditions under which I partially win. I win a copy of the DVD and the Special Edition DVD (if there is one) if there are no further FIREFLY/SERENITY 'verse stories at all or if they only continue in comics.

Obviously it will take a year or two or three to make sure one of has won. So save your SERENITY DVD receipts.

In spite of all the lawyery contingencies I thought of I consider this a friendly bet among fellow Browncoats that I hope I lose.

Whaddaya say?



Was there some sort of a point in there, other than needless pessimism?

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Monday, November 14, 2005 1:40 AM

Yes there was. Read the responses above your response.

Yeah, I was proposing a wager, which TheSentinel has agreed to. He predicted there will be a sequel and I predicted there won't be and I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is.

Whenever people make a bet and the outcome isn't clear cut then there's the inevitable argument over who won the bet. I was just trying to cover all the contingencies that's all.

As to the "needless pessimism" Well, if I respectfully (which I feel I did) disagree with an optimistic statement, why is it "needless" to express that? If a pessimistic response is needless then is not an optimistic response also needless?

If I had flamed TheSentinel then that would be "needless" because then I just would be starting a fight.

But I didn't do that. I said that I hoped I was wrong but that I don't think there will be a sequel and I gave the reasons why.

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Monday, November 14, 2005 1:43 AM

Truly. Sorry to snap. Don't have a great excuse, but here's my lame one: so many doom-and-gloomers got me down. Now I just jump whenever I perceive that that's the case.

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Monday, November 14, 2005 1:49 AM

Sentinel:

Here's my email address: batmarlowe@netzero.com
It'll be a better way for us to communicate until our wager is settled.

We will both be happy the day I pay up (if it works out that way)!

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Monday, November 14, 2005 2:07 AM

Causal:

I appreciate the apology. And I do understand how reading a lot of negative comments about the possibilities of a sequel can take its toll, especially if they were expressed as though those who think there will be or even could be a sequel are complete idiots.

My prescription:

1) Pour yourself a glass of your favorite beverage.

2) Pop your personal shinyest episodes of FIREFLY in your DVD player.

3) Watch.

4) Drink.

5) Repeat as often as necessary.

Take care,

batmarlowe

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Monday, November 14, 2005 2:09 AM

Mmmm...Scotch and "Out of Gas". Throw in a cigar, and that's the perfect evening.











Oh, and the wife.

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Monday, November 14, 2005 2:12 AM

Now I'm envious. All I've got is "Out of Gas".

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Monday, November 14, 2005 3:40 AM

I'm close, I've just got "Out of Scotch". Oh, and no wife. And the DVD's are on loan...
Empty, empty life...

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