Why do people like this show???

POSTED BY: RiveR6213
UPDATED: Monday, January 1, 2007 20:10
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i dont care if you hate buffy like death itself=) i'm just saying lets not continually post about it. i hope that you do find something you like about it in the end, especially since u bought it all!

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
I simply don't understand how trash like Buffy stayed on the air for so long and primo shows like Firefly gets the axe in short order after only 14 episodes; it numbs the mind.

The fact that Buffy the vampire Slayer has such a huge following also blows me away; what's the matter with you people? This show is meant for pre-puberty types, that's the only thing I can think of that would make it popular. I can't imagine anyone over 18 liking it very much.

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I also love Firefly and think it is one of the best TV series of all time. I'm a 57 year old male and figured I would try Buffy/Angel after watching my DVD set of Firefly maybe 6-7 times. I watched the 1st season of Buffy and thought it was just ok. I really liked only 3-4 episodes. It was about half way through the 2nd season and something just clicked for me. I now think Buffy is my favorite TV series of all time. I remember when Buffy was originally broadcast. I didn't gave it a chance because it never seemed like my type of show. I'm currently almost done with season 3 of Buffy and IMHO it's great. I was a little embarrassed when I first went to my local video store and asked where the Buffy/Angel DVD's were located. Now after having watching almost all of the 2nd and 3rd season of Buffy I also have more appreciation for the 1st season. I'm so happy I tried Buffy/Angel because now I have 4 more seasons of Buffy to watch and 5 seasons of Angel. I'm so addicted and loving every episode.

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I'm sorry, sorry, sorry! I'll never say anything bad about BTVS again okay???

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Originally posted by StakeTheLurk:

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Imaleafonthewind, it sounds like you haven’t finished season one yet. I’m glad you plan to stick it out, because the first season of any Whedon show is always the shakiest, with them still figuring out all the dynamics. (Think about that for a moment. It’s a trend in all Whedon shows, which means that had “Firefly” continued, it would have gotten even better its sophomore year and the browncoats would be warning prospective converts that “you have to get through season one before you really get to the good stuff.” Although the 14 episodes we have are all brilliant, they would seem weak in comparison to later seasons. Damn FOX!)

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If Firefly were to get any better I think my head would explode. But that's just me. I dunno why but for some reason that show (and movie) clicked with me like no television show ever has before. I generally tend to not be a TV guy because I feel that it never quite manages to live up to the quality of a film, but Firefly seems to be the exception to the rule for me. The first couple of seasons of West Wing were up there, but hey, how can the white house compete with spaceships (heh heh)?

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As for “Prophecy Girl,” that was Joss’ directorial debut. He’s described BtVS as something of a film school the public could watch because he was using the series to learn how to direct (and later other writers on the show got into the director’s chair, too, and did great things). “Prophecy Girl” is probably the best ep of season and was a sign of better things to come in the next season. In the first season, Joss only really had two good writers, himself & David Greenwalt, resulting in some less-than-stellar episodes. He also had to deal with directors who really didn’t know how to handle the material--the Joss usual of having scenes shift from one genre to another; drama to horror to comedy. Very difficult to light and film a scene that has to be scary, then funny, then scary, then dramatic. And the directors weren’t entirely receptive to his suggestions because, until “Prophecy Girl,” he’d never directed before (and he’d never run a show before, either). So, there will be definite improvement in the next season. And tell me again about the “bad directing” once you’ve seen “Hush” and “Restless;” once Whedon and the writers get control over direction things get really brilliant. As for the “conveniences” you mention, I’m not sure what you mean but I can guess about a couple of them (let me know if I’m off). In the two part premiere, Joss establishes that people rationalize away anything that challenges their perception of what is “real.” Some people have trouble with that idea, but I personally think it makes perfect sense. Folks see something weird but shake it off as a trick of the light all the time; it’s just that idea taken a little further. It’s also a classic device of horror, the people unable to see the monsters until it’s too late. It is also a metaphor into the teen mindset; the parents and adults (except Giles) are basically clueless about how the real world works but the teens see reality for what it is. And if you’re wondering why the police aren’t more on top of things, wait until Seasons Two and Three; they explain the situation much better.

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Thanks for explaining this stuff. You seem to know where I'm coming from with my two cents. Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to watching the one that Joss directed. I get the feeling that even though it's his first time directing, he knows what he wants and what is lost in translation between him and the other directors will no longer be a problem. I swear, as I watch them I sit there thinking "oh, that's a clever line - so Joss - but boy the director really failed to get the actor to pull it off." I have total confidence that it will get continually better, so forward I go.

As for the conveniences, I'm referring to much more simplistic things. Nothing so deep I don't think. And they don't make me hate the show; they just make me laugh. Partly it's Joss lear

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