Best/Worst Spin-Off Ideas?

POSTED BY: bobknaptor
UPDATED: Friday, September 6, 2002 18:46
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NOVAGRASS

Tuesday, June 25, 2002 4:09 AM

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Originally posted by bobknaptor:
Second, Mmmmmm.... Fairuza! ;) I think she's gorgeous, even (especially) with the gothy makeup. Faith always did the sister of darkness thing, and I think it worked. I think that Fairuza's dark gothy ways would work nicely in the buffy-verse.

Maybe so... but I don't see Fray as a goth chick at all. She's more of a hardened tomboy who's been kicked around most of her life and has gotten strong because of it. She's had a tough life and knows how to be strong. The majority of "gothic" kids are pretentious little whiners who take their simple little lives for granted (not all, but most fall into this category)... certainly *not* the hardened street kid-type that Melaka is described as.

I think that Fairuza would be an amazing slayer, just not Fray... (maybe an 80's punk slayer chick?).

--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--

"Nice guys can only get so mad." Fillion on Mal

ZICSOFT

Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by Novagrass:
Maybe so... but I don't see Fray as a goth chick at all. She's more of a hardened tomboy who's been kicked around most of her life and has gotten strong because of it. She's had a tough life and knows how to be strong. The majority of "gothic" kids are pretentious little whiners who take their simple little lives for granted (not all, but most fall into this category)... certainly *not* the hardened street kid-type that Melaka is described as.

Good summary of Melaka.

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I think that Fairuza would be an amazing slayer, just not Fray... (maybe an 80's punk slayer chick?).

Where is it written that FB can only play Goth Chicks?

CALEDONIA

Thursday, June 27, 2002 7:19 PM

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I want to see RIPPER here in the U.S. if it ever gets going.

Join the club! I can't wait for this one.

i think that hydrant wasn't there

TLSMITH1963

Sunday, June 30, 2002 12:23 PM

I'd like to see Spike in a spinoff, but he'd have to be different than Angel in order for it not to seem like a similar series. Maybe he could be changed back to the way he was, & it could be "Spike, the Punk Rock Vampire"!

Tammy

ZICSOFT

Sunday, June 30, 2002 8:09 PM

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Originally posted by tlsmith1963:
I'd like to see Spike in a spinoff, but he'd have to be different than Angel in order for it not to seem like a similar series. Maybe he could be changed back to the way he was, & it could be "Spike, the Punk Rock Vampire"!

Tammy

Yeah, Spike is every right-thinking fan's first choice for a spinoff. But how to do it without recycling Angel?

Got it! We recycle the X Files instead! Spike gets drafted by two government agents who need his help investaging the paranormal. We won't call the Muldar and Scully, but the woman will definitely have to be a redhead! Consider the potential for inside jokes!

ZICSOFT

Sunday, June 30, 2002 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by Novagrass:

If Thora Birch were still built like she was in American Beauty, I think she could have played Fray.

Uh, you're thinking of how fat she looked in Ghost World. It's my understanding that she put that weight on deliberately.

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If I were to do anything, it would be a Faith series. I'd send her out to Manhattan, where she'd meet up with Whistler (I think they'd be a *riot* together. No romance, though). I think a fugitive-esque, traveling from town to town, method... that way she'd have time to redeem herself and whatnot.

I'm told that Whistler was supposed to be on Angel, but by the time the show got going Max Perlich was "unavailable".

And as for Eliza Dushku... You know, I'm getting suspicious of all the actors that are "too busy" to be on Buffy and Angel. Max Perlich, Eliza Dushku, Seth Green, Joel Gray...

And then there are all the dead people. OK, so dramatic necessity killed them off. But in some cases (Lindsey Crouse in particular) they seemed in an aweful hurry to do die.

I've come to suspect that there are a lot of Hollywood actors Joss Whedon really doesn't like to work with. I think these are people who want to have a lot of creative control over their own characters. Which most TV producers don't mind giving up. But not Whedon. His shows are his creation. He can delegate, but not give up control. And some of the problems with Season 6 might stem from his inability to delegate as much as he should.

Anyway, I don't want to point fingers. We all know how Whedon lost most of the creative control of the Buffy movie to other people, especially to Donald Sutherland, who insisted on writing a lot of his own dialog. Now, this is not a bad thing in itself -- a lot of good movies are made with this kind of decentralized creativity. And I still think Buffy was a good movie -- it just wasn't the movie Joss Whedon wanted to make.

YAHOODLE

Saturday, July 6, 2002 11:11 PM

The most obvious spinoff is a new slayer. Buffy died and that's how that first other slayer came around. Kendra? And then whe nshe bit the dust it was Faith.

Thanks,

Me.

YAHOODLE

Saturday, July 6, 2002 11:13 PM

The same goes with a replacement if Ms. Gellar leaves the show.

Thanks,

Me Again.

KOOKYTREE

Sunday, July 7, 2002 2:15 PM

You know in response to the person who said that Eliza hasnt appeared on either shows because Joss wants control over his characters, I think you may have a point. Either way I'm getting a feeling Eliza's absence isnt of her own accord- I read a recent interview in which she basically said that she loves the show and its writing, but hasnt reappeared because the writers simply havent asked.

She was originally to be a regular on Angel but declined because of the pressure and working hours, so they put her in a coma (Faith, not Eliza, though that would have been amusing). Then when she was ready to come back, so were they, so she did the Buff season 4 stuff. She then thought she was gonna be recurring in season two of Angel, but she had different ideas of where Faith would end up emotionally to them, and what they came up with she didnt like and so didnt appear. She's hinted at this several times- jsut browse some interviews on the net and there is lots of things to suggest this. I'm probably wrong though (usually am).

As for a Faith spin off, I love the character but I'm not sure it'd work as a series unless they had compelling supporting characters. Perhaps one or more Slayer/s in waiting could join her. That'd be interesting as one could be trying to resist their duties, and is therefore desperately making sure Faith doesnt die in case she is called next, and another could be really into it and trying to kill Faith so she can be Slayer next! Or, the Watcher's Council could be constantly trying to capture and stop her, believing her to be evil. I'm a budding screenwriter and think that idea has tons of potential! Maybe after they truly discover she's no longer evil, they could keep attempting to impose authority and new Watchers, to her suspicion and annoyance. Harmony could be a recurring character too, can you imagine those two together!? Dru would be great too, seeing as she killed her predecessor.

As for the Dawn idea, I think it could be interesting. Dawn was essentially created from Buffy, so it could be about Slayer traits emerging and Dawn trying to control them. Sunnydale High is apparently being reopened in season seven, which I dont get. Dawn obv goes to another school so whats the point?? And if they transfer Dawn there, then get Buffy or another Scoob a job at the school, I will never watch again!! I can smell the cheese from here!!

Stay kooky.

MOJOECA

Sunday, July 7, 2002 3:58 PM

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Originally posted by kookytree:
You know in response to the person who said that Eliza hasnt appeared on either shows because Joss wants control over his characters, I think you may have a point. Either way I'm getting a feeling Eliza's absence isnt of her own accord- I read a recent interview in which she basically said that she loves the show and its writing, but hasnt reappeared because the writers simply havent asked.

She was originally to be a regular on Angel but declined because of the pressure and working hours, so they put her in a coma (Faith, not Eliza, though that would have been amusing). Then when she was ready to come back, so were they, so she did the Buff season 4 stuff. She then thought she was gonna be recurring in season two of Angel, but she had different ideas of where Faith would end up emotionally to them, and what they came up with she didnt like and so didnt appear. She's hinted at this several times- jsut browse some interviews on the net and there is lots of things to suggest this. I'm probably wrong though (usually am).

That's probably right. Also, the writers say Faith is too important a character to just deal with in a one-off. They'd want to give her an arc, which has to be planned months in advance. But she says she can't guarantee them anything that far ahead because she might come across a movie that she wants to do instead.

I'm sure some of it, too, is just Eliza wanting to distance herself from the bad girl typecasting.

--- Joe

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