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SERENITY great cinema? Compared to what?

POSTED BY: Howard
UPDATED: Friday, November 4, 2005 01:41
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Monday, October 31, 2005 4:48 AM

To those people who are so happy with
SERENITY who seem to not notice the loss in
quality and integrity that was not only
contained in the show but in even greater
potential in deleted scenes.

Deleted scenes in the box-set such as Zoe's
speech to Simon about war that was perfect
foundation for a greater and deeper more
evolved cinematic manifestation of the
concept. If such a quality drama had been
made it could have been released as an
intelligent, for grown-ups, theatrical drama
during those pre-Oscar nomination weeks in
which serious films get released.

When people laud SERENITY as one of the
greatest films ever and so on, something
clicks in my middle-aged head.

What kind of films have these people ever
seen? What do they buy on DVD?

So as PUBLIC SERVICE here are some movies
both fiction and non-fiction that well
deserve your purchase on DVD:

A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT (R1)
INDOCHINE (R1)
NOWHERE IN AFRICA (R1)
DOWNFALL (R1) (UK R2 DTS and 2-disc set)
THE THIN RED LINE (R1)
CARANDIRU (R1)
PAPILLON (R1)
BIG BAD LOVE (R1)
THE BARBARIAN INVASIONS (R1)
THE SHELTERING SKY (R1)
BESIEGED (R1)
TODO EL PODER (R1)
THE CRANES ARE FLYING (R1)
COME AND SEE (R1) poor master but worth it.
EAST/WEST (R1)
ALTERED STATES (R1)
THX 1138 (R1)
21 GRAMS (R1)
THE ASSASSINATION OF RICHARD NIXON (R1)
SALVADOR (R1)
THE FOG OF WAR (R1)
CONTROL ROOM (R1)
LIFE AND DEBT (R1)
THE CORPORATION (R1)
REGRET TO INFORM (R1)
AND NOW LADIES AND GENTLEMAN (R1)
THE VERTICAL RAY OF THE SUN (R1)
L'APPARTEMENT (France R2 DTS / Eng subtitles)
ALL ABOUT MY MOTHER (R1)
TALK TO HER (R1)
MAGNOLIA (R1)
ANGEL HEART (R1)
THE WIDOW OF SAINT-PIERRE (R1)
GOOD BYE LENIN! (R1)
IN THIS WORLD (R1) (UK R2 pure original)
THE INSIDER (R1)
SERPICO (R1)
MALCOLM X (R1)]
THE HURRICANE (R1)
DIRTY PRETTY THINGS (R1)
AMELIE (R1)
FACING WINDOWS (R1)
I'LL SING FOR YOU (R1)
FIDEL The Untold Story (R1)
COMANDANTE (UK R2)
OPEN YOUR EYES (R1)
RUN LOLA RUN (R1)
THE PRINCESS AND THE WARRIOR (R1)
THE GIRL ON THE BRIDGE (UK R2)
THE SWEET HEREAFTER (R1)



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Monday, October 31, 2005 6:01 AM

Thank you, Howard. That was certainly condescending and superior.

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Monday, October 31, 2005 6:27 AM

That list of movies = poop.


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Monday, October 31, 2005 6:36 AM

What a pointless thread. I suggest you take a class in logic and learn what straw man and false analogy fallacies are.

"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam

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Monday, October 31, 2005 6:46 AM

Maybe in the future you could just stick to warning us all about how the evil shadow governments are plotting to use Blu-Ray to take over the world.

And considering you're the one who ripped Joss and Universal for not doing 50% of Serenity's dialogue in Mandarin (that would've been exciting cinema!), I'm not sure what the rest of your opinions are worth...

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Monday, October 31, 2005 7:01 AM

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And considering you're the one who ripped Joss and Universal for not doing 50% of Serenity's dialogue in Mandarin (that would've been exciting cinema!), I'm not sure what the rest of your opinions are worth...




He actually said that? If so, then clearly he's off his handle!

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Monday, October 31, 2005 7:08 AM

Yep. Said Joss & co. chickened out, and if they'd done that, it could've made it a mega-hit in China and raked in huge $$$... (I guess they stopped dubbing movies in foreign countries, huh?)

Sometimes a comment is just so out there that it sticks with you for weeks afterward...

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Monday, October 31, 2005 7:14 AM

i did like Serenity really enjoyed it but i too appreciate that it didn't live up to it's potential. When you wrote "All aout my mother' did you me "SOBRE TODO MI MADRE' by almodovar? that is one of my all time favorites

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Monday, October 31, 2005 11:25 AM

Still relatively new to the world of posting but have I just met my first Troll in Howard?

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Monday, October 31, 2005 1:24 PM




THE RESPONSES TO THIS HELPFUL AND WELL INTENDED
POST PROVES THAT ON ANY ISSUE YOU PEOPLE ARE A
BUNCH OF VERY, VERY IGNORANT, CHILDISH SPOILT
BRATS! TOTALLY DEVOID OF EVEN THE SLIGHEST
CAPACITY TO LEARN ANYTHING OR TO EXPAND YOUR
HORIZONS OR DEPTH OF KNOWLEDGE IN ANY WAY.

NO WONDER MOST OF Y0U HOLD SUCH APPALLING AND
SIMPLE MINDED POLITICAL PERCEPTIONS. THE BASE
OUTPUT OF THE BASE LEVEL OF CORPORATE CAPITALISM
CONSTANTLY PANDERS TO YOUR LOWEST INSTINCTS AND
IN FACT ENCOURAGES THE CEMENTING OF THOSE DIRE
FAUX-INSTINCTS. WHILE DISCOURAGING KNOWLEDGE AND
ANY UNDERSTANDING THAT MIGHT CHALLENGE THE STATUS
QUO.
Howard Simon Marks

" You think you're so clever and
classless and free
but you're still fucking peasants
as far as I can see..."

John Lennon "Working Class Hero"



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