Lets take it into our own hands

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GIRLEEKAYLEE

Friday, October 21, 2005 8:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by iamaleafonthewind:

Joss said in a really recent posting that he's at peace with it all right now, which I take it to mean that he's put it out there and now it's time to move on for a bit.

Good point.
Say, a year or a two from now, if Joss wants to explore the 'verse again, are we all still gonna be here? Still thinking we'd put down some plat to support Sci-fi to buy the right from Fox?

Or should we start it now to show that we are serious about it? Keep it grow for a couple years?

How exactly can we do that donation process when we don't know each other in real life except we love Firefly?

"No power in the 'Verse could stop me."

CUB

Friday, October 21, 2005 9:34 AM

I think what Joss meant by the "at peace" comment was that he feels like he's gotten out "the message" about the worth/appeal of Firefly/Serenity. He's not out madly crusading for the next installment, but he's not against it either.

If we started the ball rolling now, we could have this thing back on the air by next fall. I'm sure of it.

We just need a little organization, a little initiative, and someone who can contact Mutant Enemy on our behalf.

Just think... 22 or 24 new episodes. A new one every week. Isn't that worth at least trying??

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"If wishes were horses, we'd all be eatin' steak."

DAZROCKS

Friday, October 21, 2005 10:06 AM

my wife and i are in! we're in australia where firefly has just hit our screens, and we were irate to hear that it only saw out one season! i'd put in $100 toward a new season!

dazrocks

DONCOAT

Friday, October 21, 2005 1:45 PM

I think there are some serious problems with this idea. I'm not against it (just the opposite!), but consider:

There is serious potential for unscrupulous people to start something like this and then sail off with the money. (I'm not accusing anyone, just pointing out the need for safeguards.)

There is no guarantee that the fund would ever be used. There's more to a project like Firefly than just the production costs. Somebody has to agree to distribute (air) the result. If this isn't arranged in advance, there would be no point in proceeding, and no sane person would contribute.

What if the fund never garnered enough contributions to pay the production costs? What happens to the money? How would you feel if you gave a lot of your hard-earned cashy money and nothing ever came of it?

This is entirely new territory -- it's never been done before. What are the legal ramifications? Would Joss even consider such an untried model?

I'm sure that there are other pitfalls I haven't thought of.

There have been other proposals, such as attracting investors (not contributors) and producing Firefly episodes on a direct-to-DVD basis. The investors pay the production costs; people like us then subscribe and receive DVDs periodically at some price per episode. Investors then get dividends based on the sales. This is closer to a traditional business model, and so is more likely to work in the real world. But even this has never been done before, and would require a buy-in by all concerned.

Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see it happen. But I think the hurdles are much higher than you'd think at first glance.

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Ain't about you, Jayne. It's about what they need.

ONETRANSMISSION

Friday, October 21, 2005 1:52 PM

I don't think we'd have to actually give our money to anyone in particular right away. We could get a petition going to see just how many fans there are that would support this, and ask them to make pledges for the amount they want to donate.

CHRISISALL

Friday, October 21, 2005 1:54 PM

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Originally posted by DonCoat:
Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see it happen.

I'd like a subscription to Firefly, please.
What's the address?

Chrisisall, ready to fire his money every-which-a-way

ERINBC

Friday, October 21, 2005 1:56 PM

While it's a very hopeful idea to want to subsidize the making of the show, I don't think it'd work...reason being, it costs and awful lot to make a series and (no offense) if fans couldn't spend enough cash at theaters to make more than $22 million in the US (so far), how do fans finance a series? Also, according to my friend who loves Star Trek, they tried this when Enterprise was in danger of being cancelled. Fans wanted to finance a 5th season (and that's only one extra season, we'd have to finance several) - they even raised upwards of $5 million. However, the networks/studio just brushed them off. Then, some fans were upset because they couldn't get all of their money back because of a "service fee" that PayPal charged.

CUB

Friday, October 21, 2005 5:06 PM

Speculation and negativity is getting us nowhere. Worse than nowhere.

Looks like no one else is willing to get the ball rolling, so I guess I'll contact Mutant Enemy about it myself.

The first thing to do is get them on board with the idea.

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"If wishes were horses, we'd all be eatin' steak."

FLETCH2

Friday, October 21, 2005 5:31 PM

This is an idea worth thinking on. In the UK at least canceled shows live on as audio plays made for profit but also to fill the needs of fans. Audio is MUCH cheaper than video, so it would be easy to get the seed fund also it seems most copyright owners seem to view it as a tie in -- like a book, rather than as a new production. Makes those licencing fees lower.

The pros of it is that we could probably get our BDH back in the saddle sooner rather than later. If the audios are a success then that would go a long way to giving credability for any future project. If after a year or two of putting money into Fox's pockets the people doing the audios proposed doing direct to video they would start out having a profitable business relationship with Fox, something that would mean their proposal would carry more weight than just a group of fans.

Negatives? Well I don't know how well the "direct to customer" model for audio plays works in the US. Also British scifi tends to be dialogue driven -- mainly because original shows tried to avoid effects footage. While that nice crisp "Whedonesque" dialogue would come through ok, his signiture action sequences would be a problem.

HANTHER

Friday, October 21, 2005 5:39 PM

Alright, for either movie or second TV series I'll give $5000.00 with legal conditions and an option for an additional $5000.00 if this begins to look promising. For my legal conditions, inquire of hanther@tandra.com and I will reply

hanther

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