Hi Firefly. Hello pain.

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CUB

Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:37 PM

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There's only 12! Twelve episodes of bliss and then nothing.

Actually there are 15. I hope you caught all the references to that already.

Wha??

I see the link to one unfilmed script... but what about the other missing episodes?

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MITHEL

Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:51 PM

Cub, buy the DVDs... you can enjoy all 14/15 episodes AND the extra material. And the DVDs are not censored/edited. The DVDs aren't even expensive (even though Amazon just raised the price). Great deal!

DONCOAT

Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:23 PM

There were 14 episodes filmed, or 15 if you count the 2-hour pilot episode as two (it was originally intended to be broken into two one-hour episodes, which is how it is being shown on SciFi Channel).

As pointed out above, we also have one official, never-filmed script. As with everything else around Firefly, that's a little bittersweet -- since it gives us a hint of what might have been.

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Ain't about you, Jayne. It's about what they need.

BARD

Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:31 PM

Sorry about formatting errors. My first post (reposted here, from "Bring Firefly Back" thread).

Re. your amazement about Firefly's cancelation, and your Trek comment:

After seeing Serenity repeatedly, I am convinced the only way to truly keep the Firefly 'verse alive is as an episodic television show. The heart of Firefly was in its pace, its character development, its charm, if you will. The slow moments, the magic moments, the humorous moments gave the show balance and were what captivated and created its avid audience. Movies, issued every 2-3 years, determined to be "epic," forced to focus on the "high" points and on dramatic action, lose this heart, lose the spirit of Firefly.

Consider the legacy of Trek. While Firefly is in many ways a reaction to/against Trek, it also, as is always the case in art, stands on the shoulders of its predecessor. A new vision, ahead of its time, created by one determined person's vision, misunderstood, mishandled, and, thus, aborted. Only to be kept alive and reborn at the insistence of a passionate (read, obsessed) following. With what results? Five television series, totalling over twenty years of episodes. Ten films (by my count, off the top of my head - I'm sure hairs can be split, here, if you must). An entire subculture, with references that permeate the culture, writ large.

Can we not do this? Can we not use the incredible success and longevity of Trek as credentials of a sort?

(I am not seeking to start a discussion of what fans think of Trek. I am very excited about Firefly, obviously, as a refreshing alternative to the Trekian 'verse. I just wish to not forget the lessons of history. Our history.)

What are our numbers, exactly? I have purchased the DVD set, and three tickets, so far, to Serenity. I have not yet joined clubs or signed petitions - although I am obviously headed that way. Am I counted among the faithful, when people discuss our numbers? How many fans do we have, and how many were needed to resurrect Trek, in its day?

I cannot, will not believe that we do not constitute a base large enough to support a television show, on some network, somewhere.

What would it take for SF channel to commit? They are business people, no doubt. We gain nothing by slandering those in Hollywood who need to pay attention to the bottom line, or by yearning for a more utopian world. Firefly, after all, is about folks tryin' to get by in a distinctly dystopian world.

On the contrary, what we need to do is to come together and convince the bottom-lined, hard-headed business folk of television that Firefly is just that - good business. As our Mal-content said, "I'm here for business."

I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I care more about this show than everything else on TV combined. For the most part, I literally do not have the time for television, nowadays. For Firefly, I make time.

Folks talk about one million copies of Serenity to be sold, theoretically, or similar numbers of Firefly DVDs, in the past . . . (I dunno - I am not an authority, here. The numbers, I'm sure, are on the CoreTex.)

If each of one million fans committed, in some online fashion, to contributing a whopping $1 per episode, we would be able to defray the cost of one hour of expensive, special effects laden TV by $1,000,000.00. If only 100,000 fans were serious enough, but were willing to pay $5 per episode, that would be $500,000.00.

Maybe they could receive special River Tam Decoder Rings, as a token of being among the True Believers? Whatever. Just give me my gorram show back.

I would consider it a better investment in art and entertainment than a cable subscription, for sure. Or 90% of the theater fare, these days.

I don't know how this would work. But I am willing to believe, as the good Shepherd would have us all do, in something. I do not accept that we can't push something like this forward, and resuscitate our poor, bloody, show. She is, for sure, tore up plenty. But she'll fly true.

If, that is, she is loved. Welded. Rewired. Repainted. Bloody well d

FIREFLYDRIVEN

Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:51 PM

Wow. I've been wanting to write something myself about the loving pain that I endure everytime I watch a Firefly episode or watch Serenity. I just didn't want to admit it because it just bears more pain and grief. But, I would rather love the show in its briefness than never to have known the greatness that it is. I do wish someone would falsely claim new episodes or a sequel will be made so that I can make through a few months. I still hold out hope, no matter how many cynics say that show had the swan song in Serenity, because I can't give up on true love.

"That's why I don't kiss 'em on the lips."-Jayne

SCARLETBEGONIA

Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:55 PM

Hi all,

This is my first time posting to this board...I've posted a few times in the Universal board but I'm really more of a lurker than a poster. But this is a subject that is near my heart, too.

I discovered Firefly over the summer after having seen the trailer for Serenity. I knew of Firefly's existence because I'm a general fan of the Jossverse, but hadn't gotten around to seeing it because I had been living out of the US for a few years and missed the original airing, and it wasn't shown where I was living (Spain). So after I saw the trailer, which I thought looked really cool, I ordered the DVDs off of Amazon.

And it was love at first watching.

I have since seen the episodes countless times, have managed to get several people into the show (although not to the point of obsession that I'm at), have seen the movie 5 times (with a total of 16 people!), and am currently suffering knowing that this is it for who knows how long. I haven't been this obsessed with a show since the early seasons of the X-Files, and before that Twin Peaks. I remember when Twin Peaks got cancelled I swore I would never let myself get that obsessed with a show ever again.

Which obviously didn't happen!

I guess I'm always falling for/attracted to the underdogs...I adore Firefly, am totally obsessed with it, and am dying for more! I, too, think about how it would be in its 4th season right now had it survived. I curse mainstream TV watching habits and wish I could get into the more banal stuff on TV just so I could avoid this pain. But it just doesn't work. I don't think anything has captured my imagination as much as Firefly has...I just really connect to it on an intellectual/emotional level.

OK, blathered enough here...just wanted to say I also feel everyone's pain and hope there will be more from this wonderful 'verse in the future!

THELURKER

Thursday, October 20, 2005 6:11 PM

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It hurts to not be madly in love with the BDM

I wouldn't know about that. I fell for the BDM, hook, line and sinker.

BROWNCOAT1

Thursday, October 20, 2005 6:18 PM

Better to have loved & have lost, then never have loved at all. Seems pretty fitting for the fans devotion to Firefly, no?

Me personally, I don't feel pain when I think that Serenity might possibly (notice I said possibly) be the end of the run. I do feel a bit of frustration and a tad of disappointment, but that is all overwhelmed by the love I have for this 'verse & characters that Joss introduced us to. Despite all the bumps & setbacks I would do it all over again to be part of this fanbase & see this show.

Besides the characters & story, being part of this fanbase, being a browncoat, has allowed me to meet a lot of great people from all over the world. I have made some great friends that I know I will have for life.

Pain? Sure, there is that bittersweet pain from time to time, but the joy I have gained from the show & these people far outweighs the pain.

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MITHEL

Thursday, October 20, 2005 6:38 PM

Bard, yes I'd love to know the "numbers". Certainly I'd be willing to pay $5 per episode. And I would *think* we have 100,000 people who would. Given what Joss and the cast have said of their love for Firefly and desire to continue making it plus *some* advertising revenue it would seem the numbers are reasonable to make it.

CUB

Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:02 PM

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Originally posted by Mithel:
Bard, yes I'd love to know the "numbers". Certainly I'd be willing to pay $5 per episode. And I would *think* we have 100,000 people who would. Given what Joss and the cast have said of their love for Firefly and desire to continue making it plus *some* advertising revenue it would seem the numbers are reasonable to make it.

Heck yeah! Sign me up! I'd pay several times that per episode to get it back on the air.

Anyway, it's really therapeutic reading all of these posts.

I own the DVD set. I just miscounted the episodes, I guess. Seems like less than 14.

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