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Hi Firefly. Hello pain.

POSTED BY: Cub
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CUB
Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:56 AM

It's now exactly two weeks after I saw my first Firefly episode, and I think I now know what it means to be a fan.

It hurts. Real bad. We're talking sick, pit-of-your-stomach, just lost your best friend hurt.

It hurts to finish the last episode and realize that's it. There's only 12! Twelve episodes of bliss and then nothing.

It hurts to think of all the episodes that never happened over the past three years - all the stories and journeys we missed. Those days are lost, and they're not coming back no matter what.

It hurts to think of all the stories we're missing right now as the cast and crew move on to other things.

It hurts to try to tell your friends how good this old, quickly cancelled TV series is and have them look at you like you've got three heads and change the subject.

It hurts to see the movie and leave completely unsatisfied. I want a weekly show, and that's just a big, glorious tease.

It hurts to not be madly in love with the BDM, because then you have to choose between lying to all of your friends and telling them it's the best movie ever made just so they'll go see it and help the box office; or telling them you were kind of disappointed and feeling like you're betraying other fans. (I chose to lie.)

It hurts that the best I can probably hope for at this point is that my lies will help lead to another movie in a couple of years - waiting as the cast members age and change, as the creative vision changes - while I think of all the stories that we're missing in the meantime. And then getting another big glorious tease that probably will look even less like the show I fell in love with.

I love Firefly. And I hate loving Firefly. But I can't stop. I'm thinking about the show constantly, and none of my friends want to hear about it, and there's nothing to watch and nothing to do (but spam message boards, apparently). God this sucks.

I'm sure you've all been in this "special hell" before. Does this feeling ever get any better? Please lie to me and say yes.

Better yet, tell me there will be new episodes on TV every week by next fall. I think that's the only thing that would really help me feel better. Oh, and it would really help if you happen to be Joss Whedon.

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"If wishes were horses, we'd all be eatin' steak."

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Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:08 AM

Welcome to the pain and glory that is the Browncoats. I know exactly how you feel. Unfortunately, Serenity only makes it worse. Everytime I go see the movie I feel so dead inside. Like you said, it's like losing a best friend. I feel so sad, but at the same time, i feel so pissed. Why wasn't Firefly given a fair chance? why did Fox have to screw it over? Is it that hard to air the Pilot episode of a series first? It does get better, but EVERY day i find myself thinking about the show and what could have been. it just frustrates me SOOOO much. There is still hope. There is love, and love will keep us flying. just look what it's done for you. You recently joined the Browncoats, and hopefully there are others like you. We keep growing in numbers, and the movie is only making that number grow. The future isn't certain, we can only wait to see.

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Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cub:
It hurts to try to tell your friends how good this old, quickly cancelled TV series is and have them look at you like you've got three heads and change the subject.

It hurts to see the movie and leave completely unsatisfied. I want a weekly show, and that's just a big, glorious tease.

It hurts to not be madly in love with the BDM, because then you have to choose between lying to all of your friends...

I love Firefly. And I hate loving Firefly. But I can't stop. I'm thinking about the show constantly, and none of my friends want to hear about it, and there's nothing to watch and nothing to do (but spam message boards, apparently). God this sucks.

I'm sure you've all been in this "special hell" before. Does this feeling ever get any better? Please lie to me and say yes.

Oh, and it would really help if you happen to be Joss Whedon.



Welcome to the love. Yes, Love Hurts.

Honey, don't lie about liking it, just go see it again, see it twice more. You will like it more each time. Then you will want to see it five more times. And then you will have it memorized and be able to like it a whole lot in the morning with your cornflakes.

You will have your DVDs, which you will watch a million times until you can quote them all and know every nuance.

And you can come here where it's warm and the coffee's always on, and no one's bothered by their own three-headedness, and won't be bothered by yours either.

Like your thread title, made me laugh out.

Sorry, not Joss
but I have it on good authority that he will write other stories you will love. It's just his way. Do you know of the Buffy, and the Angel? Those can be good places to go to help with the wailing and lamenting and the gnashing of teeth.

Yes. Yes, this is a fertile land, and we will thrive.

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Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:35 AM

I choose to look at it this way. Atleast it got made. We have 14 wonderful episodes to enjoy that might never have been.

I might only be a 4 week old fan (in terms of knowing about the series), but I feel happy that atleast its there.



The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. – H.L. Mencken

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Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:38 AM

I agree, I am a relative noob to Firefly and when I got to the end of the series I felt a tangible pain at the thought that there was no more.

The characters are so real. They all have their own little foibles that make them realsitic ,that let us identify with them.

sigh.

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CUB
Thursday, October 20, 2005 6:01 AM

Thanks for the words, everyone. It's kind of sad that the only thing that really numbs the pain a little is knowing that everyone else is suffering too.

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Originally posted by liminalosity:
Honey, don't lie about liking it, just go see it again, see it twice more. You will like it more each time. Then you will want to see it five more times. And then you will have it memorized and be able to like it a whole lot in the morning with your cornflakes.



I'll take you up on that when the DVD comes out. Today's Serenity's last day here. By the time we made it through the DVD set, it had three days left at the theater. We saw it, and practically the next day it's gone. Our goram city!

Quote:

Originally posted by liminalosity:
And you can come here where it's warm and the coffee's always on, and no one's bothered by their own three-headedness, and won't be bothered by yours either.





Thanks. Really, thanks.

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Originally posted by liminalosity:
Do you know of the Buffy, and the Angel? Those can be good places to go to help with the wailing and lamenting and the gnashing of teeth.



I found Angel to be hit and miss. I own all seven season of Buffy on DVD and probably know half the episodes by heart. But I've never been as crazy about a TV show as I am about Firefly, not even Buffy (and I can't believe I just wrote that.) My wife feels the same way.

Lord help me, I may have to write a fanfic. I've got this show pounding through my veins and no outlet.

Anyway, it's nice to know I have a place here... that we all do. Keep that coffee warm. I'm sure I'll need it soon.

---

"If wishes were horses, we'd all be eatin' steak."

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Thursday, October 20, 2005 6:11 AM

I know exactly what you mean, I feel the same. I've been a fan of Firefly for a long time now, and it was really hard in the beginning. No one to talk to about it, but feeling like it was taking over my life. For a while I was able to find some peace, but now the BDM has rekindled my agony. I want the show back too. I'm glad we got what we got, but it seems so unfair when there's so much garbage on tv everyday. I'm not the kind of person to be a crazy fan-girl, so it's not an entirely comfortable feeling to be suddenly finding myself saying things like gorram and rutting in regular conversation and getting weird looks. So I guess we have to find solace among equally obsessed fans and be glad that we had the chance to experience something that was able to affect us so strongly.

It hurts, but it makes the impossible happen:

Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: [to River] Love keeps her up when she should fall down, tells you she's hurtin' before she keens. Brings her home at the end.

To Hell with this. I'm gonna live!

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Thursday, October 20, 2005 6:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cub:
I'll take you up on that when the DVD comes out. Today's Serenity's last day here. By the time we made it through the DVD set, it had three days left at the theater. We saw it, and practically the next day it's gone. Our goram city!

I found Angel to be hit and miss. I own all seven season of Buffy on DVD and probably know half the episodes by heart. But I've never been as crazy about a TV show as I am about Firefly, not even Buffy (and I can't believe I just wrote that.) My wife feels the same way.

Lord help me, I may have to write a fanfic. I've got this show pounding through my veins and no outlet.

Anyway, it's nice to know I have a place here... that we all do. Keep that coffee warm. I'm sure I'll need it soon.



Have you heard the DVD is to be released 12/20 in time for Xmas? That's what I've read here anyhoo.

Yeah, FF is incomparable. I like most all of Joss' work, but FF reigns supreme.

Write well, Frodo.
And there's always your personal logspot for serious keening. Haken thinks of everything.

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Thursday, October 20, 2005 6:17 AM

Cub --

In the vernacular:

"You are SO not alone."

Seems like "broken hearted relative newcomer du jour".

Very best regards,
--Karel.

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CUB
Thursday, October 20, 2005 6:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Karel:
Cub --

In the vernacular:

"You are SO not alone."

Seems like "broken hearted relative newcomer du jour".



God, ain't that the truth.

Just looking around... it's crazy with obsessed newbie pain here.

Sucks being consumed with the show - this pretty poison - and yet being so new to the whole thing that you're not even sure how to spell "gorram." Not even properly knowing your way around the site yet but having no other haven.

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"If wishes were horses, we'd all be eatin' steak."

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