BDM Double Meanings

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KNIBBLET

Tuesday, October 4, 2005 1:17 PM

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Originally posted by DucesTecum:
WOW! I don't have a problem reading. I do have a problem reading humor when it isn't there. I take offense at being attacked without provocation when the very idea is to start a conversation, you know, the give and take of ideas merely for the sake of hmmm, conversing.

I'm going to try again. Don't ask me why. But I'm going to try again. See, this here part (in italics) is why is WASN'T an attack but was rather, a "JOKE".

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Originally posted by Knibblet:
I think you're obsessive and delusional and you'll see patterns and answers in the bottom of a cereal box ... but we're all like that when it comes to the 'Verse, so it's okay.

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/MN-Firefly/

CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, October 4, 2005 2:25 PM

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Originally posted by DucesTecum:
I still want more from Zoe than an acknowledgement that "she's tore up plenty," but at least she's admitting that much.

Yeah, but any more than that and she wouldn't be Zoe. She's holding it in, like she always did before she met Wash (I'm going by Tracey's comments in "The Message"). No, it's not particularly healthy, but it's true to Zoe.

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Originally posted by derangedmilk:
I'm still looking for my "Wash's death support group" made up of browncoats who liked the movie, everyone who seems to be affected by it as much as myself has turned against the rest of the film because of it.

Sign me up. Wash's death made me feel sick, but that doesn't change the brilliance of the story. He saved his fellow travellers from a firey death, and died smiling. Seems to me it'd be unjust to not respect that.

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

ARAMINA

Sunday, October 9, 2005 12:44 PM

I definitely agree with the Zoe scene. I didn't spot it the first time round, but it's so telling. I think that both Mal and Zoe knew they were talking about Serenity and Zoe, but they didn't need to specify. Their relationship doesn't allow for big emotional scenes, but they have found other ways to be intimate as friends without hugs and tears.

Fireflyfan70 - I noticed River's "Do you" and I thought that was very telling right from the off that something big was going to happen (well, not that we didn't already know that what with this being a Big Damn Movie).

Another double meaning was River's (and aren't most of them from her? :) ) "They never lie down". She wasn't talking about Reavers never giving up with their prey etc, she was talking about Miranda and the fact that the men who turned into Reavers didn't lie down like the rest of the population.

When I think of an interesting signature you'll be the first to know.

CYBERSNARK

Sunday, October 9, 2005 4:17 PM

And of course there's Zoe's "prophecy" during the bank heist, repeated from the series, about the definition of a hero.

Pretty much sums up what happens to Mal. . .

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

ENGINEANGEL

Sunday, October 9, 2005 5:10 PM

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derangedmilk wrote:
I definitly agree with one and three as well as the political implications of the Pax.

I'd like to second that agreement.

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I'd also like to add that Wash's(god rest his fictional soul) last words "I am a leaf in the wind. Watch me soar." are very much like the common phrase used to express one's mortality in relation to time, "I am dust in the wind." Very appropriate and in adding "Watch me soar" gave his death a very liberating almost upbeat note despite that my stomach is still in knots two days after seeing it and the scene made me so emotional I was unable to go to the second showing i'd intended.

WOW ... i love that explaination.

It's amazing. WOW. good job!

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I'm still looking for my "Wash's death support group" made up of browncoats who liked the movie, everyone who seems to be affected by it as much as myself has turned against the rest of the film because of it.

I didn't like wash's death and still liked the movie. Well, i started a thread that basically what you're looking for. Check it out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=13372
Talk to ya there!!!

keep flyin'
EngineAngel

"I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how i soar."

Wash, you were the best gorram pilot in the verse. Rest in Peace (and then come back again!!!)

VISITINGMYINTENTIONS

Sunday, October 9, 2005 6:01 PM

Ducestecum's sig made me notice this:

Inara, in Serenity: "And that's not incense."

Inara, in Out of Gas: "I told you, that's incense!" ...Looks like Jayne was right to worry after all.

The idea about the Pax is intriguing. I like it. It fits with the Operative being your average religious fundamentalist nutcase until he can't avoid the proof of what the people he's working for end up creating in his name.

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Early: Where'd she go?

Simon: I can't keep track of her when she's NOT incorporeally possessing a spaceship, don't look at me --

ENGINEANGEL

Sunday, October 9, 2005 6:39 PM

another double meaning is OBVIOUSLY:
all those times Mr. Universe or his wife-bot say "You can't stop the siganl" that was such a dis to FOX!!!!

keep flyin'
EngineAngel

"I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how i soar."
Wash, you were the best gorram pilot in the verse. Rest in Peace (and then come back again!!!)

DROCCULARI

Sunday, October 9, 2005 6:58 PM

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
And of course there's Zoe's "prophecy" during the bank heist, repeated from the series, about the definition of a hero.

Pretty much sums up what happens to Mal. . .

I must be the densest person on the planet. I saw the BDM three times and never got that one. At least now I do. Thanks.

WHISPER

Sunday, October 9, 2005 9:54 PM

Another one I noticed was at the very beginning of the movie when Mal is talking to Simon and he says something like: "This job goes south, there may well not be another."

I didn't catch this until the third time I saw the movie, but I took it as statement for the movie in the real world. That if this movie doesn't do well, there may not be another one.

www.whispergraphics.net

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, October 10, 2005 7:29 AM

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Originally posted by engineangel:
another double meaning is OBVIOUSLY:
all those times Mr. Universe or his wife-bot say "You can't stop the siganl" that was such a dis to FOX!!!!

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I agree

plus we have
Zoe ( Bank Job ) -
do you know what a hero is, its somebody that gets others killed
But she may have also been remembering Mal leading the Battle of Serenity

River ( End of movie ) -
Storm is getting worse
Next film is gonna be more gruesome, more Reavers, Blue-Sun, Jayne tuggery, Hands of Blue....you name it

but Mal replys they'll get through it

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