The culpability at the state and federal levels in the New Orleans assistance debacle (cont.)
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, January 27, 2025 15:27
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Why are you getting angry at Hero? When someone on one extreme side of the argument says that it's definitely the people's fault because this is a democracy, you know exactly where the fault lies and he knows it too.
Well, enjoy your moron in chief for another three years, don't say we didn't warn you. You better hope that the death toll of Americans that can be laid at his door next year doesn't hit the thousands again. (Unless of course you're rich, in which case you're probably safe.)
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Quote:The guy running FEMA (a Bush drinkin' buddy-?) could have at LEAST arranged for horses to be used in evacuating people, I mean that was his area of expertise, right?
Originally posted by Hero:
FEMA failed because despite all their planning they were unable to function in an effective manner for days after the storm. They had pre-positioned supplies and oodles of trained personel and equipment, but were so fouled up in mid and upper management that the job just wasn't being done.
Oh, yeah, he was about to be fired from that job...
Guess he has no area of expertise...
Thanks for the appointment, George Chrisisall
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Quote:The callousness and beligerancy of previous posts by yourself make it hard to know if you're being factual of fanciful here, I want to see receipts!!!
Originally posted by Hero:
1. Last week I organized an effort to send a truck load of relief supplies south, including the truck (which was a surplus industrial dump truck we got from a DUI), as I understand it, it is now the property of the City of Gulfport.
2. Saturday I organized and ran a large flea market at my church, we donated the proceeds to Methodist Katrinia relief, then took up an offering and doubled our intial donation.
You really did that?
If true, you're the nicest jerk I ever met online!
Jerk in a good way Chrisisall
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Perfesser,
With all due respect, I think you do not understand the rage of those such as I who have watched this administration bungle everything it's touched since day one (and I am not a Democrat nor even slightly left-oriented). But this just takes the cake when posters here who have access to the Internet cannot see where the fault lies. Even MSM newscasters see it and rightly blame the administration. If you saw Keith Olbermenn's muted but extremely potent commentary last night you would begin to understand my complete lack of patience with assholes, and my willingness to tell them to go to hell because their blindness and incapability of intelligent thought, coupled with blind faith in a failed leader, does absolutely no good for anyone on this forum nor for the dying poor in New Orleans.
What's worse, I was not the least surprised by Bush's inaction. I expected it.
And many more than Bush are to blame: Chertoff. Cheney (where the HELL is he?). Local N.O. government, etc. We cannot give them (nor their toadies) any kind of a pass nor any break or it will just happen again.
Thank you for your time. Now, go teach.
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Quote:Most I know wanted that android Bush de-comissioned w a y back, when he was only messing up wilderness preserves, and killing animals in the process.
Originally posted by Hero:
Seems that everyone, except for most of those doing the work, are pointing fingers at their traditional political enemies and saying "its your fault".
He's progressed since then. He's had sucess, at various levels, in:
Killing parts of our Constitution,
Killing our soldiers,
Killing our economy,
And now, killing our people.
He's a good hunter, isn't he?
Just waiting for that 'Prez for Life' ammendment to come Chrisisall
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AURAPTOR, GEEZER, et al who still support Bush:
The chain of command was that the President had to okay the use of the military (see below). But without his getting involved, all responsibility lay with Homeland Security, led by PROVEN LIAR Chertoff. He failed utterly, and continues to do so even now. He needs to be tarred and feathered. FEMA is under DHS.
But the onus of responsibility lies with Bush, whether or not he or anyone else likes it. As the "acting" head of this country he ought to have taken charge the Sunday night before landfall and ordered every resource of the Army, Navy and Air Force into the region. The stupid man apparently doesn't understand his role in the world.
HE FAILED, and continues to do so today (along with his ignorant mother, BTW).
Hell, I NEVER watch TV news, yet I knew that Sunday night New Orleans was going to get it.
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Also, those who can't find things out for themselves, but continue to support Bush need to read this, directed to:
HERO (who, on the previous thread, seems to think all the proffered foreign aid is being accepted:
Wake up, man! All it takes is people there and supplies. No goddamned US coordination is required. Ask anyone who has been there. All it takes is PEOPLE willing to lend a helping hand. Your piss-poor attitude favoring "authority" is identical with that of the government who bogged this effort down in the first place. Here's more from today:
[BBC]
"Germany is offering 2 million barrels of oil a day for 30 days. Venezuela is offering FREE fuel!! France [has given] more offers of aid than they could list; even Sri Lanka -- poor and devastated by last year's tsunami -- offered cash!! But [there has been] NO response from Washington."
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By Wayne Madsen
Wayne Madsen Report.com
9-6-5
"Team Bush" is still refusing international aid:
* Russian rescue crews on four cargo planes with helicopters on board sit idle at an airport near Moscow waiting for green light,
* Cuba has 1500 doctors with 26 tons of medical supplies and Bush is refusing them entry to U.S.,
* Venezuelan disaster rescue teams wait for a "go,"
* Dominican Republic crews with hurricane recovery experience wait and wait and wait.
It's the same scene at airports around the world.
Meanwhile, FEMA turned back 8 buses from Washington, DC that were to bring 400 evacuees to the DC Armory which has been stockpiled with just about every need. The Bush regime has finally reached the crescendo of evil.
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Oh, and HERO, you are the only one mentioning politics in this matter. No one else has done so. And Bush did not need to WAIT for the authority to take action. HE HAD IT! As President, you get on TV and declare a disaster, and instantly the whole country knows it. That's called LEADERSHIP and it transcends politics.
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CHRISISALL said:
"Rue does the homework!
"If paid by the hour for the research done here, Rue would have the money to run for office."
AMEN! And I'd vote for him!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
1. Last week I organized an effort to send a truck load of relief supplies south, including the truck (which was a surplus industrial dump truck we got from a DUI), as I understand it, it is now the property of the City of Gulfport.
2. Saturday I organized and ran a large flea market at my church, we donated the proceeds to Methodist Katrinia relief, then took up an offering and doubled our intial donation.
3. Sunday I offered prayers in my church for the victims of Katrina, the nation, and the Chief Justice's family.
4. Today I am making an effort to get my City to convert an elementary school (shut down last spring because of school budget issues) into a long or mid-term shelter for I hope 200 displaced persons.
How bout you?
H
Why are you wasting time on this secondary stuff when there are fingers to be pointed and blame to be apportioned? No wonder the Leftistas here hold you in such disregard.
Actually, I'm glad you're in a position within your local government and church community to make these things happen, and that you are making them happen. Wish I could swing as much, but as a retired, not religiously aligned person, all I can do in a practial way is drop bucks on the Red Cross and hope they buy lots of bottled water with it.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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GEEZER,
You may want to contribute instead to the Salvation Army (seriously). There is apparently much graft in the higher-ups at Red Cross, though reports are that Red Cross personnel on the scene are doing a fine job.
The head of Salvation Army gets $13,000 a year (from memory of two days ago), but head of Red Cross gets close to half a million a year.
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Quote:Hero is the man. All I did was donate the cost of repairing my broken sun roof.
Originally posted by Geezer:
Why are you wasting time on this secondary stuff when there are fingers to be pointed and blame to be apportioned? No wonder the Leftistas here hold you in such disregard.
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Qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum.
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By the way, I second what perfessergee said about hearing everyone on here. When someone tells you you (Finn) or anyone else should stay off the board, take it as high emotion. I am subject to it myself at times.
For instance, I may feel that AJ is being an idiot about things in the extreme, but he is hardly a troll.
But Bush still sucks Chrisisall
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