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Blueprint conundrum or not

POSTED BY: ManiacNumberOne
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Friday, April 25, 2003 12:03 AM

I'm trying to convert those deckplans to an RPG mapping program called AutoRealm. If you download the program (just google it for the site), I can send you what I have so far.

Early: You ever been raped, Kaylee?
Kaylee: You know, it's funny you should mention that... ever heard of the Fox network?

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Monday, April 28, 2003 6:49 AM

Hey Maniac. Go to Kaythryn's site. I capped the video on the fox web site that has part of serenity's blue prints. Go into the non-episodic tab to find them. 3 in all.

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Monday, April 28, 2003 1:07 PM

I have actually managed to make a pretty good, consistent map of the ship.

When I started, I was under the impression that the ship was consistent, but didn't really work in real space (that is, some of the spaces overlapped each other, because in reality the sets were in two very distinct places). I was suprised to learn that this was not so; I came up with a map that matched every episode, and even fit within something that resembled the dimensions of Serenity, EXCEPT...

There is NO way to get the corridor that runs from the bridge to the engine room to fit the irregularities in the side view of the ship. The reason why becomes clear if you manage to see the pre-production art that the graphics company was using at about the time the sets were built; the early Serenity didn't have such deep vertical notches.

Unfortunately, my map is on graph paper, and I don't have ready access to a scanner, but it CAN be done...

Uncle Hyena

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Monday, April 28, 2003 8:28 PM

TALRIUS: Yah, I'd looked at those prints, and they clearly represent an earlier version of the ship's profile; it's much straighter and slimmer. Thanks for posting them!

UncleHyena:

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There is NO way to get the corridor that runs from the bridge to the engine room to fit the irregularities in the side view of the ship. The reason why becomes clear if you manage to see the pre-production art that the graphics company was using at about the time the sets were built; the early Serenity didn't have such deep vertical notches.


You're absolutely right; the 'wasp-waist constriction' (shades of Larry Niven) between the "thorax" and "abdomen" pods of the ship is very deep. there is no way that a corridor could extend straight back from the mess that far without breaching the hull and extending out into space ("Lookit that: 'breach hull, all die!' Even underlined it!" [MST3K:The Movie]). If one wants to place the "beating heart" of the ship at the point where the thorax meets the abdomen (middle of the Spinning Lights [pardon the jargon]), one would need a staircase at the aft end of the aft corridor, or more likely, around the middle (say just past the aft staircase to the Commons/Dorms/Med Bay), leading down almost a full level. We must get on the line to Joss immediately!!

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Unfortunately, my map is on graph paper, and I don't have ready access to a scanner, but it CAN be done...


Might I suggest (beg? entreat? supplicate?) you take your graph(s) to Kinko's (or the equivalent, wherever you are) and buy some (cheap) time on a scanner, save the file on a good ole floppy, and share the wealth. I (and, I suspect ManiacNumberOne...among many others) would be intrigued to see it/them!

Pity the interiors don't match up exactly with the exteriors (pretty darn close, though!); takes me out of the 'verse just a wee bit...but this is MUCH more than amply made up for by the rest of this exquisitely crafted show!

BTW, no word back from Zoic Studios for my e-mail request for guidance from their art dept. Didn't really expect any. But it would have put many of these questions to bed.

Keep flyin'!


Department of Redundancy Department

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Monday, April 28, 2003 10:27 PM

Um...not to be all spammy on you guys or anything but...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3324017415

I just listed those on ebay a few minutes ago if anyone's interested.

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Monday, April 28, 2003 10:31 PM

Hot gorram! Somebody snatch these up and scan 'em!

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Monday, April 28, 2003 11:30 PM

Those plans fit the original serenity from the unaired pilot and train job. I didn't post them there Kaythryn did so really you should give her credit. As for the Zoic Studios, they might be putting the bp's on the dvd's. Joss said he was gonna load it down with goodies.

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DOBSON: I'm supposed to be meeting my wife's sister. I've only got a few days to see her...

ZOE: I wish there was another way...

DOBSON: Oh, no, no. That woman is like a dragon. I mean, I believe she has a tail. If there's any other moons we need to visit, or if we could just
fly very slowly...

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Tuesday, April 29, 2003 1:18 AM

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Originally posted by Talrius:
Those plans fit the original serenity from the unaired pilot and train job. I didn't post them there Kaythryn did so really you should give her credit. As for the Zoic Studios, they might be putting the bp's on the dvd's. Joss said he was gonna load it down with goodies.



Did they change the sets at all between Serenity/Train Job and the rest of the show? The biggest difference between the exteriors on the Pilot Serenity and the Production Serenity (I'm assuming there were only the two) that *I* can see is the cargo bay "footprint" seen from below is MUCH larger on the Production version. From what I can see on e-bay (ooohhhhhhhh!) the interiors seem to match the Production more than the Pilot (which I had already suspected).

Bill
"We all know I'm the funny one."
"You ain't all that funny."

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Tuesday, April 29, 2003 7:33 AM

That almost makes me want to stop my slow-going blueprint work. I have been having so much fun watching ep's and slowly piecing everything together, now I am dissappointed. Should I even bother to finish?

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Sunday, May 11, 2003 8:40 PM

Maniacnumbertwo: "No Maniac, don't stop your work - keep going - you can do it!!"

Maniacnumberone: "Well, ok. I 'll keep going I guess."

Maniacnumbertwo: "Good, good. I'm glad."

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