Blueprint conundrum or not
POSTED BY: ManiacNumberOne
UPDATED: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 20:55
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Okay I'm gonna insert some things here.
1. There are two doors on the bridge of Serenity. Each flanking the pilot's chairs. Were the port side door leads is anyone's guess. Check me, Out of Gas when Mal wakes up on the bridge from the Walden answering Serenity's distress call. and Objects in Space during the conversation about River.
2. The starboard stairwell that leads up from the cargo bay, to presumably the fore corridor has a room between it and the fore corridor. Check 'Our Mrs Reynolds' during Vera's introduction look behind Mal and you'll see.
3. There are two doors in the cargo bay on the top catwalk. That mysterious door has a twin on the port side. I can only find one scene with this in it. Shindig, when Mal and Inara are drinking above the cattle.
4. Behind that said door there appears to be a hallway running from port to starboard. Bushwhacked Inara enters the cargo bay through this mysteious door.
5. I want to know where the rooom Dobson goes to in Serenity to get his luggage. It seems to be in the passenger dorm.
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my answer to number 5:
I also think its in the passenger dorms because if you look at the door style (yellowish and sliding, it gives a glimpse of it). but it might be one of those at the very top of the ramp (that I mentioned before)...they probably use those for general storage when no passengers are in them.
As for the rest of the mystery doors...and there are a lot...I wonder if there are mystery prizes behind them all. lol
I wish I was a jellyfish because jellyfish dont pay rent.
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I think I can speak to #1. If you look at the FOX official site, under FEATURES ---> "Geek to game project," and look at the "hallway concept" renderings, you'll see the doors from the hallway. The main door, atop the steps is on the starboard (facing forward) side, and nothing but blank hull on the port. I wonder if the door on the inside of the bridge isn't just an access port to circuitry, etc?
Best I can do for now, as I can't really go check the disks at the moment. If I see any different when I can actually check the "canon," I'll post my $.01
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A couple of points:
1. The Serenity set consists of 2 pieces, the upper part of the ship, and the lower part. Each is completely self-contained, so you could actually do a cinematic tour of the ship, and only have to cut once- when going from one level to the other.
2. In OMR, when Saffron seals off the bridge, Kaylee says "She didn't just lock it, she fused it to something. Both entrances." However, we only see her fuse one door, and she runs into Inara immediately afterward. It's possible that the second entrance is via the room that the ladder between the consoles leads, and that she sealed it BEFORE coming onto Wash.
Early: You ever been raped, Kaylee?
Kaylee: You know, it's funny you should mention that... ever heard of the Fox network?
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Originally posted by ManiacNumberOne:
I am fairly certain that Jayne's room is the middle one one the port side, and that Mal's room is directly across from his, not Kaylee's.
At the end of War Stories, during the scene in the kitchen, Jayne can be clearly seen coming up the ladder from his bunk, the last one on the port side, closest to the bridge. I think that would put Wash and Zoe in the middle, accross from Mal.
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I like your assistance. I saw what you meant at the end of war stories, but danged if I haven't seen Jayne pop out of a different room too. I will let you know when I find it again. It's a good thing I am waiting until the last to label the rooms.
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It's possible that the second entrance is via the room that the ladder between the consoles leads, and that she sealed it BEFORE coming onto Wash.
Not just a possibility, but that's where it is. If you look down the hallway with the crew quarters you'll see stairs leading up to the bridge, and a door next to it, and I seem to remember seeing some more consoles like the ones on the bridge in there, but that's not the point. I watched that scene specifically looking for more info about that room and the other entrance to the bridge, but they show here pulling the strip off her dress and fusing the door, then they cut to her encounter with Inara. It seems to me that she may have either fused the second door in the same fashion after the first (I don't think she would've gotten away with that down below without Wash noticing, it seemed to make a fair amount of noise, flame and smoke), or perhaps she locked it from the inside via a panel at the pilot's console, then cut the power to the whole assembly. Just a thought, I just wonder why they didn't make it more clear what she did to the second (downstairs) door.
-The SpAz
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I agree Spaz, that staircase is definitely where the second cockpit entrance is. It makes you think twice about the size of the ship huh? If the cockpit of the ship is at least two levels, which it is, then we are looking at an inside height of around 16 to 18 ft. That doesn't include ares in between the levels for structure, or the outside casing of the ship. All those things included make the height of just the cockpit more than 20 ft.
I was going to post and say that I had lost my mind because the layout for the passenger quarters appeared to be changing, but I think I am not crazy (much) after all. It appears that some of the passengers may have been changing rooms over the course of the show. It's either that, or the camera angles are messing with me. At the end of Safe when Jayne is dumping the doctor's stuff back on his bunk and he comes out of the room, he appears to be coming from the rear of the ship, but from what I had found out earlier, the doctor's room is definitely starboard side.
It's great! I keep watching for little things I missed before, and I am finding whole new areas to the ship that I never thought existed. That scene at the end of Safe with Simon and Mal shows another set of stairs behind the medical bay that I had previously never seen. Shiny.
Also, when Book finds River "fixing" his Bible, River is at the table in the mess hall, and Book appears out of a dark corner on the forward starboard side of the mess hall, with tray in hand, as though he were the one to have just appeared in the mess hall from some other entrance on that side. River had apparently had been sitting at the table for some time doing her "fixing". So where does this other entrance or area lead? And if it isn't another entrance, then the only possible solution is that it is some sort of very dark pantry that Book had been hanging out in, preparing his tray of food, while River came into the mess hall, (quietly) and sat at the table and laid out all of her papers. I don't like that explanation though. It doesn't seem right somehow.
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Originally posted by Manicnumberone:
At the end of Safe when Jayne is dumping the doctor's stuff back on his bunk and he comes out of the room, he appears to be coming from the rear of the ship, but from what I had found out earlier, the doctor's room is definitely starboard side.
Not that I've been paying as much attention to detail like the rest of you, but here’s what I figured. In the Pilot Dr. Tam was given his guest quarters, he put his things away, and shortly after craziness ensued and the girl in the box was discovered. Later that night he tucked her in to bed- his bed. Simon found out he was allowed to stay, and he probably stayed up all that night or perhaps fell asleep in a chair in his room while River slept. The next day all kinds of adjustments had to be made- and River was given her own room, directly across from her brothers (Simon didn’t move because all of his things were already unpacked in his room whereas River didn‘t even have the proverbial “clothes off her back“ that would need moving).
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What you say is true Kaythryn, yet my point is a different one than I think you addressed. Even though Simon's room is aft (to the rear) of River's, in the passage in Jaynestown, that I mentioned before, Jayne is walking down a hallway that runs fore to aft when he exits Simon's room. If he had exited Simon's room where I believe it to be, then he should have been walking down a hallway that runs right to left (starboard to port.)
The scene in Jaynestown at the very end shows that when Jayne leaves Simon's room, the stairway which goes upstairs is almost directly in front of him, and a little to the right, and Jayne could see up the stairs. If he had been coming from the doctor's room, then those stairs would have been on his extreme right, and he wouldn't have been able to see up them, he would only have been able to see the side of them.
So, this brings up a problem in my diagram. I am trying to be as accurate as possible. I thought I had found the solution to the problem, in the scene right after that. Simon said to the Mal, "I've moved him to his room." referring to the shot Book. I misheard it the first 2 times as, "I've moved into his room." They are close sounding, really. So stop making that face. Anyway, that didn't solve the problem. Who wants to solve it for me? If there are no takers, don't worry, I'll eventually figure it out, it may just take me a little longer.
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