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Problems with 3rd Caleb Episode

POSTED BY: Succatash
UPDATED: Friday, May 9, 2003 18:24
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Wednesday, May 7, 2003 8:32 PM

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Originally posted by Eternals:
Having watched Buffy from the beginning I liken her to a sort of comic book heroine. Most of them have to get beaten down so that their victory seems so much sweeter. Admit it, if she had walked in and whooped his but in ten seconds, well how disappointed would you have been. She finally figured out that she couldn't go toe to toe with him, and as such, she could run away. I found it to be so, well, fulfilling to have her discover that she was right all along. And then, i also thought it was poetic justice what happened to Faith and the others.



I so agree. Unforunately I also agree that the last few shows haven't been a Buffy best, but I just think they are killing time so they can hit us all at once with a kick ass series finale. All of Joss's finales rock and I just can't see him disapointing us at the very end. He cares too much, unlike some other creaters that don't fight to hard for a decent closing. I have faith that in the end... all the pain in the butt lines and out of character behavior will come to a perfect head.

I also think the unfunny Andrew is going to end up being an unexpected hero and some how save the day. Otherwise he is just a waste of space and what would be the point of that?

SciFi Siren

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Wednesday, May 7, 2003 11:02 PM

I thought that the bomb thing wasn't really out there, but the fact that Faith would fall for it was. Faith was brought in for a reason (talking of the power that be, good and bad coverge... stuff that happens) and it was a calling from the good side of things. So to go from you're needed in the world and right now you need to go and help Buffy save the world to you make a mistake that's completely out of charicter and lead everyone into a trap just seems really really bad coherance.

I also think that the matrix moves are just cheep. I would belive Buffy somehow becomes more agile becuase something about being at peace (while in spikes arms that night) let her powers come out, but to have that happen at the exact same time that Caleb suddenly loses all of the power that he has been shown to have cuaseing him to be bumbleing in a way that we know he's not; it's just too much.

It's contrived, and I really expected more.

They didn't need to make it a confrontation with the first which they would only be able to have her win by breaking all of the rules they set up over the course of the show. The Nephilum would be just as bad.

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Thursday, May 8, 2003 2:15 AM

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Originally posted by christhecynic:
I also think that the matrix moves are just cheep. I would belive Buffy somehow becomes more agile becuase something about being at peace (while in spikes arms that night) let her powers come out, but to have that happen at the exact same time that Caleb suddenly loses all of the power that he has been shown to have cuaseing him to be bumbleing in a way that we know he's not; it's just too much.

It's contrived, and I really expected more.



I agree with the whole matrix deal, but i still loved the episode. Watching buffy makes me so creepily happy that i tend to miss weird mistakes. lol. ::is buffy mistake-blind::

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Thursday, May 8, 2003 2:29 AM

C'mon, Faith herself as much as admits that she isn't all that bright. She didn't even understand Wood's reference.

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Thursday, May 8, 2003 3:20 AM

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Originally posted by Eternals:
C'mon, Faith herself as much as admits that she isn't all that bright. She didn't even understand Wood's reference.



Faith's always been a fighter, not a scholar. I think there's a big difference between walking blindly into an obvious trap and missing a reference to the Illiad.

"I go online sometimes, but everyone's spelling is just so bad. It's depressing." Tara, BTVS

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Thursday, May 8, 2003 7:15 PM

Exactly, there are many people who would walk into a trap that know all about the Trojan War. Faith is intelligent, not so knowledgeable, but still too intelligent to fall for that.

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Friday, May 9, 2003 3:09 PM

Okay, finally I managed to download the episode and watch it. I have to say, the biggest problem I had with this episode was Giles! He acts weird the whole season, but now to kill a captive? Not in battle, but a helpless prisoner? And have you noticed, he killed him in the middle of a sentence? Maybe just before the prisoner could say something about a bomb?

I know that people have stepped away from the Giles-is-evil theory, but I am not convinced. I can't remember, but have we actually seen how he escaped the axe, when he found his fellow watcher??? What happened there? What happened to our nice, mild-mannered, polite Giles?


Merl

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Friday, May 9, 2003 6:24 PM

Good question. Maybe there is a stupid curse over the gang, faith falls for an obvious trap, Giles kills a prisoner before he can get (potentaily) vital information.

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