Science and mistakes in Firefly: Ask your questions.
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, September 8, 2005 08:45
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There was a period of 450 years to concentrate on population growth.
There is a new generation every 25 years.
The goverment breeding programs required couples to have three to six children (assuming an average of four).
I don't know about you, but I was capable of breeding long before I was 24 (assuming 9 months gestation and 3 months for trying.)
Government breeding programs would encourage breeding as soon as biologically possible, consitent with maintaining the health of the mother--probably around 15.
Better recalculate.
To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein
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Thats an average number, in fact people would have babies every year, they wouldn't wait 25 years, and then have 4 children 
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Its a reasonable estimate for the doubling rate of a population (which is about 23 years for the last century).
Basically the numbers are there to indicate generation span, children would be born over the course of a womans fertillity, taken as roughly 50 years...
You post kind of supports my theory tho...
You can either reduce the number of initial colonists, or increase the resultant population, mainly on the core worlds, of course.
Q: What do you have when you are holding two little green balls in your hand.
A: Kermit's undivided attention.
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Quote:I don't know if I totally agree yey, but boy, you get a gorram gold star for the effort!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by citizen:
So we end up with a 'verse with a population of ~3,503,250,000, or three and a half Billion people, starting with 4,000,000 colonists.
And thats my theory...
YFC Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Look again: the ambulance lands - Zoe gets out - she moves to the right, going almost totally out of camera, next shot she's in she has a cart.
Originally posted by calonriel:
How does Zoë go and "grab one" if she can't get out of the ambulance until it's landed -- yet the dolly is already under the ambulance when it lands?!? Besides, immediately before the ambulance lands we see in the long shot that there's nothing sitting on the landing pad. Hence my term: "Magically Appearing"!
The landing shot just before that has two shadows (undefined as they may be, groups of 'dollies' can't be rulled out)on the bottom left, and the bottom right, visible just before the shot ends.
I HATE TO REPEAT MYSELF!!!!
Agitated YFC Chrisisall
So do I !!!!!!!!!!!! (Hate to repeat myself, that is!)
I'm NOT talking about the dollies that they wheel the poorly-disguised Thule boxes with Simon and River in them around on!!! READ what I WROTE!!!
I'm talking about the Magically Appearing Dolly that's . . .are you ready? . . . are you sure? . . . 'cause here it comes . . . that's UNDERNEATH THE AMBULANCE! The AMBULANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here, I'll help you out, ye "Master of All Explanations"
: Check out marker 14:36 on the DVD -- ambulance lands on the landing pad. Directly. On the PAD!!!!!!!!Then, at 14:41, we see the first sign of the Magical Dolly (look at the left of the screen and you can see the tiny little wheels underneath it!).
At 15:02, you can CLEARLY see the dolly (covered in black) sitting underneath the "feet" of the ambulance!!!!!!!! THAT'S what I'm talking about! Now do you see it? If not, I don't know how the hell else to point it out to you.
Crikey! THAT'S the dolly I'm referring to. Something they used to move that gigantic ambulance prop around on -- NOT the ones they use to move the poorly-disguised Thule boxes!
So anyway, now that you (must) see it -- where did it come from????????? Certainly wasn't there when the ambulance was flying! Wasn't there when they first landed. Yet it just Magically Appeared, starting at frame 14:41.
So . . . . . . . . what is it, master????
(Besides a mistake, that is!)
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You stupid wooman!
Can you not see that it is mearly the landing pad locking mechanism that prevents the ambulance falling off and getting lost or stolen?
('Allo 'Allo humour, if you haven't seen 'Allo 'Allo, I pity you, I really do...)
The ambulance is guided in by automatic control, lands on the landing pad, and then the locking assembly rises out of the pad and locks the landing gear in place...
Dolly indeed, anyone would think that it wasn't a real working flying ambulance from the future, and that it had to be wheeled about some kind of film set...
As Chrisisall would say DUH!
Q: What do you have when you are holding two little green balls in your hand.
A: Kermit's undivided attention.
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Originally posted by citizen:
You stupid wooman!
Can you not see that it is mearly the landing pad locking mechanism that prevents the ambulance falling off and getting lost or stolen?
('Allo 'Allo humour, if you haven't seen 'Allo 'Allo, I pity you, I really do...)
The ambulance is guided in by automatic control, lands on the landing pad, and then the locking assembly rises out of the pad and locks the landing gear in place...
Dolly indeed, anyone would think that it wasn't a real working flying ambulance from the future, and that it had to be wheeled about some kind of film set...
As Chrisisall would say DUH!
Q: What do you have when you are holding two little green balls in your hand.
A: Kermit's undivided attention.
"Well, Golllllllllllllllllly, Saergent Carter. I apologize."
(I'm male, by the way, but no matter!)
Anyway, yaah, I'm glad that SOMEBODY finally looked more closely and figured out what I was talking about! Cool. Neat-o. Keen. All them sayings. Oh, and "Shiny!", too. Yaah -- A "landing pad locking mechanism". Yaah, [Jon Lovitz]that's the ticket[/Jon Lovitz].
Why I, I, I feel so silly. Why didn't I think of it!?! Well, until I hear from the master on high, [cough]Chrisisall[/cough], I guess that'll have to suffice as an explanation. It's what I'll tell any newbie's I watch the DVD's with who happen to spot it.
Whew! What a load off.
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Not that this thread takes itself seriously...
Re: Vera
Overlooking that the writers got it wrong...
But Jayne does not say anything about Vera needing oxygen to fire.
He says Vera needs 'air' around her to fire.
This opens up the discussion as to 'why' to considerably more options than if he had said 'oxygen.'
Discuss.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Re: Vera's purported need for "oxygen" around her; Jayne may know weapons, but he's hardly a scientific prodigy. He had the idea right, but got the terminology wrong. What Vera needs is not oxygen per se, but atospheric pressure, and less for the need of O2 for combustion than as a matter of protection for Vera's carefully-machined tolerances.
Consider that taking a non-space-rated firearm into vacuum will cause lubricants and plastic or silicone seals to outgas very rapidly, perhaps enough to damage her within a minute or two of vaccum exposure; adding the force and released high-temp vapors of a chemical propellant could easily damage her further; you might get just a single shot off before accuracy went to hell -- and although he did make his first shot, Jayne had no way of knowing in advance that would be the case. (Despite that whole "bent scope" yarn.)
"Know what the definition of a hero is? Someone who gets other people killed." -- Zoë Warren
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Not that this thread takes itself seriously...
Re: Vera
Overlooking that the writers got it wrong...
But Jayne does not say anything about Vera needing oxygen to fire.
He says Vera needs 'air' around her to fire.
This opens up the discussion as to 'why' to considerably more options than if he had said 'oxygen.'
Discuss.
--Anthony
Sorry, but the quote IS "She needs oxygen around her to fire and we don't have a case."
To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein
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R1Z,
I owe you thanks. Not often I get a good excuse to dig up the DVD's and revisit a beloved moment.
He does indeed say Oxygen. Time dulls recollection, I suppose. My apologies.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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