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Science and mistakes in Firefly: Ask your questions.

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, September 8, 2005 08:45
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Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:00 PM

First off, let me say there are no mistakes in Firefly.
The science is all sound and thought out. Every word makes sense.
There may be some things people don't understand, and that's why this thread.
It's got to be a scientific question, or a query about a perceived inconsistancy of some kind...any other problems and you got to consult the Evil Doctor on the other thread.

Here's an example. On how would you know if a gun had laser sights or not from another thread:
Quote:
Originally posted by YT:
War Stories: Book (to Zoe & Jayne): "From the look of these wounds I'd say a 54R sniper rifle. Laser sights."

YT, a 54R sniper rifle w/out laser sights would invariably be locked on auto-fire to nail victims from a distance. He had one single hole in him; therefore the laser sight assumption.
Duh.

Weapons master Chrisisall

If you make a statement about a possible mistake, after I correct you, the answer will be followed by the obligatory 'Duh'.
All questions will be addressed in a more polite fashion.

Science Advisor to NASA Chrisisall

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:32 PM

It set 500 years in the future, but 500 years isn't long enough to reach another solar system using sub-light drives...
We know theres no FTL in FireFly...
so how could they get to another system, let alone one as improbabal as that of the FireFly 'verse in 500 years?

Q: What do you have when you are holding two little green balls in your hand.
A: Kermit's undivided attention.

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:49 PM

What about Jayne firing Vera through the EVA suit in Our Mrs. Reynolds? I can accept that the air in the suit allowed for enough oxygen to fire once, but once the visor's glass was breached, wouldn't that be it? Wouldn't all the oxygen evacuate the suit at that point? He fires a bunch of shots after that first one.

"Dear Diary...today I was pompous and my sister was crazy ... Today, we were kidnapped by hill folk never to be seen again. It was the best day ever."

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
It set 500 years in the future, but 500 years isn't long enough to reach another solar system using sub-light drives...
We know theres no FTL in FireFly...
so how could they get to another system, let alone one as improbabal as that of the FireFly 'verse in 500 years?

The One-Way Single-Use Mass Exodus Jump Gate that was constructed just before the end of Earth That Is. A combined effort of mankind targeting a galaxy of possible new near-Earth type planets. The planetary engineers were the first to use it. It was the one and only time humanity was united in a single, selfless moment, making future inequity possible.
The gate remained functional for less than two years, and 88% of the population used it before it's collapse.

Chrisisall

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:49 PM

My take on it is that they used suspended animation on the ships so when they say 500 years, they mean 500 years that they know about and maybe a hundred thousand years of them sleeping.

Besides, time gets blurry at the speeds they're talking about.

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Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by SimonWho:
My take on it is that they used suspended animation on the ships so when they say 500 years, they mean 500 years that they know about and maybe a hundred thousand years of them sleeping.

The number of new ships that would have had to be constructed, let alone the number of existing ships that would need modification would make this an improbable, if highly entertaining, account of how the Earth was evacuated. The OWSUMEJ Gate was obviously the way to go.
Duh.

Chrisisall knowsitall

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Monday, August 29, 2005 12:10 AM

Your gate, was it a EPR bridge to another part of this galaxy or universe?
Was it a cross over point to an infinitesimally small alternate universe? If so how did the ships return to normal space?

How come the tech was not brought with them, why wernt the great minds that thought up that means of travel responcible for a second great explorationtion of space?

Inquiring minds need to know!

Q: What do you have when you are holding two little green balls in your hand.
A: Kermit's undivided attention.

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R1Z
Monday, August 29, 2005 12:16 AM

Quote:

LEXIGEEK wrote:

What about Jayne firing Vera through the EVA suit in Our Mrs. Reynolds? I can accept that the air in the suit allowed for enough oxygen to fire once, but once the visor's glass was breached, wouldn't that be it? Wouldn't all the oxygen evacuate the suit at that point? He fires a bunch of shots after that first one.



The suit supply would replenish the oxygen. We hope the suit has a sensor and adds 02 at the rate it's used up. 'Course, with it leaking out the bullet holes, it's gonna go through the supply pretty fast, but Jayne only needs about 5 seconds.

Now here's the one that drives me crazy--

When Simon give an injection using a hypodermic needle, he injects at the crook of the arm, or the inside of the elbow, if you will. This site is commonly used when you need to inject into a vein, as the veins are near the surface there. However, medical professionals always use a rubber tourniquet to engorge the veins and make them stand up so they're easy to hit.

Simon never uses a tourniquet. He must be really good at this, despite the fact that in hospitals and most doctors' offices, it's the nurses who give injections.

To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein

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Monday, August 29, 2005 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lexigeek:
What about Jayne firing Vera through the EVA suit in Our Mrs. Reynolds? I can accept that the air in the suit allowed for enough oxygen to fire once, but once the visor's glass was breached, wouldn't that be it? Wouldn't all the oxygen evacuate the suit at that point? He fires a bunch of shots after that first one.

Vera uses oxygen to fuel the fire of a kind of liquid 'jet fuel' to heat the round into firing, no 'hammer' action exists in it.
Once the plate contacting the round is super-heated, it can discharge rounds for several minutes without further use of either fuel or oxygen (in space that time is drastically reduced to only a few seconds).

That's the Callahan auto for ya Chrisisall

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Monday, August 29, 2005 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by R1Z:
However, medical professionals always use a rubber tourniquet to engorge the veins and make them stand up so they're easy to hit.

Needles in his time are smaller at the tip, allowing for more precise vein penetration. The tip then expands in response to body heat to allow a smooth flow from the syringe.

Phlebotomist Chrisisall

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