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Dumbest Line in Firefly

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R1Z
Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:06 AM

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In Shindig- what Mal says about Kaylee in the pink dress- "What would you do in that rig? Flounce around the engine room? Be like a sheep walkin' on its hind legs."

But then again maybe it's a great line and I just don't get it.



Actually, it is a great line. A full skirted dress would be downright dangerous in the engine room, probably get caught on moving parts. BTW--Sheep walk on all fours. Send me your address and I'll send you a sheep. You can see for yourself.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by Daelus:
"You're a rabbit, Mal!"

Oh, wait. There's a chance that's not the actual line..




I wear headphones whenever I watch DVDs, and that is the actual line.

He did call Mal a rabbit, kinda like in a "You're chicken, a yellabelly traitor" sorta way. Rabbits and chickens respond to a threat the same way, (RUN!), the rabbit is just a bit faster than the bird.

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R1Z
Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by BlueBomber:

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I can explain away everything, even why there is gravity on a ship w/no power (see: Out Of Gas).
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Huh! Now that you mention it....why IS there gravity on the ship when there's no power?
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All cargo and transport ships are constructed with an exotic element yet to be discovered that exerts a gravitational pull to simulate gravity on board. It does not require power, except to negate it's effects (As in the pilot when they were bringing cargo in from space, Mal clearly pushed a button to cut off the gravity-negation field to drop the crates on the floor).
Lights are backed up by bio-luminecence, a loss of power and those little critters glow something fierce, almost as bright as the real thing.



I vote we cut some of these with Occam's Razor.

My fossil-fuel burning clunker of a car has lights, air and RADIO when the engine's not running because it has a battery .

Serenity frequently needs all systems running when the engines are off and she's not docked at a spaceport. Everything works while the engines are off while the ship's on Triumph, St. Albans and on whatever moon the Heart O' Gold is on.

If you leave the engines running to power ship's systems, people get slurped in and that makes them (or their next of kin) all manner of techy.

Actually, do I get a vote?


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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by dietcoke:


To call someone a "granpa" is an insult. It's like referring to someone as "old man." Book, instead of saying something equality nasty back, he slyly smiles and simple says: "I never married." i.e. I AM NOT A GRANPA! Dumbass!





In China and other Asian countries, "Grandfather" is a sign of repect, when said to an older man (like Book) who the speaker is not related to.

It means that the old man was fortunate to survive long enough to see his children live long enough to have children of their own.

Since China and America have mixed together, "grandpa" is no longer an insult, mearly another way of saying "Sir". Book, after living in an Abbey for so long, probably would've forgotten that, or never learned that it meant more than "somebody with decendants".




Of course calling a kid "granpa" kind of insulting.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by R1Z:

I vote we cut some of these with Occam's Razor.

My fossil-fuel burning clunker of a car has lights, air and RADIO when the engine's not running because it has a battery .

Serenity frequently needs all systems running when the engines are off and she's not docked at a spaceport. Everything works while the engines are off while the ship's on Triumph, St. Albans and on whatever moon the Heart O' Gold is on.

If you leave the engines running to power ship's systems, people get slurped in and that makes them (or their next of kin) all manner of techy.

Actually, do I get a vote?


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That makes sense. havin' A/G on battery backup. No gravity would be incredibly dangerous in a ship that was'nt built to be without it. It would make repairs almost impossible. Hell. they'd be dead before they even got to the engine room.



Plus, the writers did'nt want to have Nathan hangin' from a wire harness for two weeks while they shot the episode.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by Whisper:
While I love everything about Firefly, there has always been one word that has bugged me. It was from ep Serenity and was the word "humped." It just sounds stupid. Everyone that I have shown the series to have laughed at that line, saying how stupid the word was.

That's my only nitpick but i've since gotten used to it and don't roll my eyes at it anymore.

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They used it because "screwed" is over used, and not nearly as funny or imaginitive.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:12 AM

I have always hated the first lines of dialogue in Heart of Gold. As my least favorite episode, it may be because it starts off so horribly. Rance's lines arent bad... it's just when the girls start talking "He'll do it too" as if no one else knew that, "No he won't we wont allow it" is just asking for the next question, because it's clear they cant stop Rance... "We'll get help that's how..." "Not a soul on this moon go up agaisnt Rance Burgess" "Ain't nobody strong enough".... "besides, who'd help us"....

It just begs the cheesy addendum "This looks like a job for... THE SERENITY CREW!!!!!"... it just doesn't work, and whoever wrote those lines must have been drunk or something, because most of the rest of the episode is pretty good.

I survived a day in Whitefall and all I got was this lousy signature!

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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:17 AM

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Originally posted by dietcoke:

To call someone a "granpa" is an insult. It's like referring to someone as "old man." Book, instead of saying something equality nasty back, he slyly smiles and simple says: "I never married." i.e. I AM NOT A GRANPA! Dumbass!

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In many cultures -- especially Asian cultures -- calling someone grandfather or grandmother is a sign of respect. One is deferring to the individuals superior age, maturity, wisdom and life experience.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:28 AM

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Originally posted by Whisper:
While I love everything about Firefly, there has always been one word that has bugged me. It was from ep Serenity and was the word "humped." It just sounds stupid. Everyone that I have shown the series to have laughed at that line, saying how stupid the word was.

That's my only nitpick but i've since gotten used to it and don't roll my eyes at it anymore.

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"Humped" is a euphemism for "f**ked," and has been for decades.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:50 AM

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Originally posted by manwithpez:


"There's a little saying amongst people like us...Leave no man behind." *chambers round*




The reason this line bugs the crud out of me is because that is NOT a saying amongst people like THEM.

THEY are smugglers, thieves and ne'er-do-wells.


"Leave no man behind." is the credo of the US Army Rangers, the Marine Corps Force Recon and other military Special Operations units that deal in death on a regular basis. It's why when one of them falls in battle, they grab up their buddy's body and bring it home.

Honor among soldiers . . .NO HONOR AMONG THIEVES.

Yes, I realize that our bunch of folks are not your typical criminals, but they ARE criminals.

Maybe Wash should've said, "There's a saying that applies to most of us ON THIS SHIP."

But to say "people like us" is not accurate. Remember. . .for our crew, "people like us" includes the pirate crew that tried to steal Serenity in OOG.



But remember that the name of the episode is "War Stories." Mal and Zoe *were* soldiers. That is the source of the unshakable bond between the two of them which bothers Wash enough to set off the whole chain of events.

When Wash says "people like us," he's trying to allign himself with Zoe and Mal, *not* with the entire crew. Of course, he's basing his right to belong to this "band of brothers" on one little adventure in which he didn't manage to contribute much and probably wouldn't have survived without Mal, the real veteran.

The humor of the line comes from the fact that Wash still doesn't really understand the depth of the bond he's aspiring to; he can only speak about it in hackneyed cliches. But at the same time, he's learned enough about it that instead of feeling left out, he can now admire his wife for her loyalty, which is inextricably linked to her service in the war.

Like so many lines in Joss's work, this one works on many levels, but only if you're paying attention to the larger context and to what the line tells you about the character's development.

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