WIll we believe him again?
POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Monday, August 22, 2005 08:56
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Bush is always right...
Anyone who says different is a crazy lefty...
The europeans deserve to have Iranian nuclear weapons dropped on them...
Yawn how boring...
See, I can arrogantly dismiss someones entire point too!
Q: What do you have when you are holding two little green balls in your hand.
A: Kermit's undivided attention.
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Lynch, I'm going to repeat a previous poster and I hope you take this advice seriously: Your inability to admit (USA) mistakes invalidates everything you might have to say because you're literally incapable of handling a whole category of facts. You're like a mathematician who can't go past zero on a number line... it blows such big, basic chunks out of your capabilities that I frankly see no point in parsing your distorted POV.
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Originally posted by citizen:
Bush is always right...
Anyone who says different is a crazy lefty...
The europeans deserve to have Iranian nuclear weapons dropped on them...
Finally you are making sense.
I for one think Bush is more right then wrong (he and I disagree on a couple things because I'm a crazy lefty when it comes to immigration, domestic spending, choice of dog, etc.).
Anyone who disagrees with him is not a crazy lefty. Thats just here on this board. You guys are crazy leftys, most other people are just plain old Democrats, work hard vote blue kinda folk who don't take to Michael Moore's preachy movies and find James Carvill downright creepifyin.
The Europeans do not deserve to have Iranian nuclear weapons dropped on them. The French...maybe, but all of Europe, no way. Besides everybody knows that Iranian nukes are reserved for the Isreal, the US, Isreal, maybe Russia, and...hmmm...Isreal.
H
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Lynch, I'm going to repeat a previous poster and I hope you take this advice seriously: Your inability to admit (USA) mistakes invalidates everything you might have to say because you're literally incapable of handling a whole category of facts. You're like a mathematician who can't go past zero on a number line... it blows such big, basic chunks out of your capabilities that I frankly see no point in parsing your distorted POV.
Wow, thats impressive. Let me try.
Signy, I'm going to use your political views to justify my dismissal of your political views because you are literally incapable of handling a whole catagory of facts defined by me for me to support my point of view. Your like a mathematician who chooses the answer he wants and works backwards to make the numbers fit. Thus 5=2+2 and if you can't accept that its because you don't understand what "2" really is. So this response is to inform you that I cannot respond to your "distorted POV".
Thats fun...somebody do me next.
H
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Originally posted by Hero:
Anyone who disagrees with him is not a crazy lefty. Thats just here on this board. You guys are crazy leftys, most other people are just plain old Democrats, work hard vote blue kinda folk who don't take to Michael Moore's preachy movies and find James Carvill downright creepifyin.
The responce was aimed squarly at a crazy 'righty'
.I don't consider myself a crazy lefty, and even if I was i'd take a crazy lefty over a 'sane' righty any day. Why, well to my knowledge the only British goverment thats entered into a war for purposes of re-election was a conservative one. Yes I'm look at you Maggie, you mad old bint.
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Originally posted by Hero:
The Europeans do not deserve to have Iranian nuclear weapons dropped on them. The French...maybe, but all of Europe, no way. Besides everybody knows that Iranian nukes are reserved for the Isreal, the US, Isreal, maybe Russia, and...hmmm...Isreal.
Funny, I doubt any Americans were saying that about the French when they were fighting the war of independence for you
.But hey they don't have a word for entrepreneur right...
The French don't deserve nuclear weapons raining down on them, they deserve to have it proven that they aren't the nation at the centre of the universe perhaps, but not nuked.
Q: What do you have when you are holding two little green balls in your hand.
A: Kermit's undivided attention.
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Yeah, you'd better leave now, before you actually answer a question by accident!
Bitty little punk!
Yeah, that's what I called you!!!
All I see is a puddle o' piss refusin' to answer a straight simple question. I'd like to smack ya! (You ain't real big there, are ya AJ?)
Doesn't matter!! I'll whoop your 
!!!
*pant, pant*
Sorry, I lost it there.
The first one to raise a fist is the first one to run out of ideas.
Like attackin' a country when other options have not been fully utilized.
Notice how I don't go callin' you a 'righty' or neo-con ('cept for Canardman joke-related stuff), it's not helpful or accurate to lump you in w/others. Y'all got your own particular brand of unworthyness for give and take discussion.
Just leave, and take your dog-boy Hero with ya!!!
(I wasn't TOO hard on him, was I?)Chrisisall
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I think that went well.
We're all better people after the last few posts 
I feel that we've made the first few steps (in a twenty million mile journey).
Chrisisall
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Originally posted by citizen:
Funny, I doubt any Americans were saying that about the French when they were fighting the war of independence for you
Sure, they waited till we'd won, then jumped in with both pinky toes. Lets face it the French haven't had a pair of ball between them since Napoleon and he was a Corsican.
I also think there's good french and bad french. The bad french are the ones who tend to surrender and get conquered. They love wine, cheese, and apeasing terrorists and would-be dictators. Then there's the good french. They are the resistance fighters and ass kickers who show up after the war is lost. They lover wine, cheese, bicycle racing, and parking their tractors on the Avenue des Champs Elsees
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But hey they don't have a word for entrepreneur right...
Yes we do. We have several. There's American, Republican, and my favorite "Trump".
H
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Originally posted by lynchaj:Quote:
Originally posted by HKCavalier:
I'm very curious, but I doubt that I'll get much of an answer, if any of y'all think the U.S. has ever done anything in our short 200 year stint on this planet for which we should be ashamed (that is other than the biggies like slavery--now I might put Hiroshima here and the genocide of the Native Americans, but there's some indication that posters here have found those actions justified). So is there anything that besmirches America's good name today, anything at all?
You are right about the first part, I'll doubt you'll get much of an answer either.
Oh, I don't know AJ, you've given me more of an answer than I expected.
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Why would anyone answer such a silly, self loathing, defeatist question?
AJ, what in the world are you talking about? It's a simple question of perspective. Are you very, very young? Have you never done anything you've regretted? "Self loathing?" AJ, that is a very primitive understanding of the self. So, to your mind, a healthy sense of self includes no error, no regret, no failings. As one matures, such notions tend to be undercut by reality. And that's not a bad thing, AJ. It is human to suffer and, whether we like it or not, there can be no compassion without suffering. I know you are capable of apologizing when you've gotten something wrong, I've seen it on this board; shouldn't we as a nation be big enough to admit our mistakes and learn from them?
This is the heart of what truly disturbs me about your position. In your mind, we as a people, have nowhere to grow internally, we are perfect moral beings. There's no accountability, because, in your eye, we don't need any. That is not good.
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Talk about an loaded premise. Try "when did you stop beating your wife?" next time.
That's only an unfair question when you haven't beaten your wife, isn't it? If you have, if she's got bruises and a few missing teeth, then the subject needs to be addressed. Or eventually, it will be addressed for you.
You once spoke of America having a sacred destiny, an historic purpose to change the world for the good. I agree with you. I believe the Constitution of the United States of America is one of the sacred texts of the world. There's a reason, other than mere historical fetishism, that we display the original document for all the world to see. I mean that "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" belong to every citizen of the world, now and forever, because of that document. That a nation was founded upon these inalienable rights is a great miracle and unprecedented in European history. That fact speaks to every person on Earth, strengthens our souls and ennobles our spirit.
Meanwhile, we Americans are only human, with centuries of terribly, terribly bad habits to get over. We all know that the CIA has tortured and killed thousands of people without due process over the years--that's what secret government agencies do and have done since the beginning. But our Constitution promises that it will not always be that way. I believe that we will, one day, live up to our Constitution.
In my view, George Bush has done great work for the soul of America, because he has brought to light what had previously been hidden. He is truly, and without irony, the President we deserve. The irony of Europe always looking down its nose at us, while we have the power to annihilate any target on the globe; the profound imperfections of the UN; the ongoing use of torture by our secret agencies; the fair weather convictions of our nation's liberals; the inherent corruption of our "two party" system; the sycophantic tennis match mentality of the ratings crazy media; etc. He even made a man of Al Gore! Sure, many of the most informed Americans have known about these things, but now everyone in America has an opinion, everyone must account for ourselves as a nation and as a people. Oh, 'cept you.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey,
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Citizen- What's a "bint"? (I assume it's nothing flattering!) 
Chris- Unlike Hero, who actually CAN sound logical with effort, AJ has a genuine mental block. He is unable to follow a logical progression past certain strong defenses... his mind just veers sideways like a phonograph needle that skips a whole bunch of tracks. There he was, encircled by a bunch of people who understand that HK's question was NOT logically bogus and everyone "gets it" except for him. Must be very uncomfortable.
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