JayneCobb: obtuse and in-appropriate.
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 22:17
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The appeal of the Cobb character is that he's afraid of everything, and which of us isn't afraid of something?
I think people give characteristics to Cobb that aren't written or performed because they want to have sex with Adam Baldwin - it's the old transference routine 
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In "The Message", after Mal and Zoe opened the cargo container, I was laughing hysterically during the group silence. I was expecting someone to say something like "Isn't that against Alliance shipping regs?" or something of that nature. When Jayne busted out with "What'd y'all order a dead guy for?" I was literally rolling on the floor. Too funny.
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What Adam seems to bring to "Jayne" is that crafty little boy who yanked pigtails and put gum in your hair in fourth grade.
He's evil in that bratty little kid way, more than anything big-evil-murderous, he's having fun with his life, and lives to enjoy life.
Him and Kaylee *definately* have the obnoxious big brother - little sister thing down pat.
All the really good lines have already been uttered, but a friend of mine looves the one in war stories...
"Coulda-shoulda-woulda." as he racks the bolt of Vera...
heh heh heh,
-F
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Yeah, Severen, you're right. That is Wash's line. Egg on my face. But it makes sense. Why would Jayne want to go back to the crappy town where he's a hero?
Now I'll have to find another example that fits that particular kind of Jayne humor. There's probably a bunch of examples, but one isn't coming immediately to mind. Probably because it's two o'clock in the morning.
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read this thread last night before i went to work, then on my drive home this morning i had an epiphany! and everyone please feel 100% free to disagree with me. ( i see resemblances all the time that no one else does) but as i was litening to the OMWF sound track in my car, it hit me...
jayne=spike
spike=jayne
if not the same root character, definately from the same corner of Joss's mind. so like cousins or something...
try a spike or jayne line, with the other's accent. should work a good 60% of the time.
...May have been the losing side, Still not convinced it was the wrong one.
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I really don't want to rehash the whole Spike thing, because I like this board and I don't want to vent my bitterness all over the shiny new surface, suffice to say Jayne is nothing like Spike in my opinion.
I think Jayne is adorable. And most of the best quotes have been said, but I think this classic has been overlooked...
Jayne: "What we need is a diversion... Zoe could get nekkid."
Wash: "No!".
Jayne: "I could get nekkid."
Zoe and Wash: "No!".
Oooh... and...
"There's nothing as deceivin' as a low down, diry... deceiver."
And this one had me on the floor laughing so hard...
"Dear Diary, today I was pompous and my sister was crazy. Today we were kidnapped by hillfolk never to be seen again. It was the best day ever."
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"Your toes are in the sand."
"And your head's up your..."
"Hey!"
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Originally posted by optimus1998:
jayne=spike
spike=jayne
That makes more sense than it should.
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ok. absolutely NOT trying to open a can of worms here, BUT.........
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Originally posted by batmarlowe:
Jayne is the most versatile character I've ever come across in terms of what the writers can use him for:
Fearsomeness. You wanna make this guy mad?
Competence (in a fight).
Lunkheadedness. No matter how good he is in fight, he might get you into you one you don't want to be in. And maybe into one he doesn't want to be in for that matter.
Blunt (for dramatic purposes).
Blunt (for comic purposes).
Humor. "Can we go to that crappy town where I'm a hero?"
Provides suspense. Can't be trusted.
Provides conflict. Thinks he should be in charge.
Resolute. Will not back down once he's made up his mind.
Yes, he's new and improved, multi-purpose Jayne (TM)! Available only in specially marked boxes of FIREFLY and SERENITY!
WARNING: Do not use Jayne for leadership or strategy.
I think most of these couls be applied to spike, though i should specify post initiatve spike(with chip/soul)
Spike is the most versatile character I've ever come across in terms of what the writers can use him for:
Fearsomeness. You wanna make this guy mad? ( he did kill 2 slayers and "study under" Angelus)
Competence (in a fight).( only folks i can remember beating him fist to fist would be adam, Buffy and Angel, maybe Faith ( did they ever fight?)
Lunkheadedness. No matter how good he is in fight, he might get you into you one you don't want to be in. And maybe into one he doesn't want to be in for that matter.( do i even need to go there?)
Blunt (for dramatic purposes).
Blunt (for comic purposes).
Humor. (from the Angel series Finale)
"Angel: Tonight one of you is going to betray me...
Spike thrusts arm in the air enthusiastically
Angel:...Wesley.
Spike: Well can I at least betray you 3 times?"
Provides suspense. Can't be trusted.
Provides conflict. Thinks he should be in charge, that or buffy's pants.
Resolute. Will not back down once he's made up his mind.
...May have been the losing side, Still not convinced it was the wrong one.
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Yay! Mine didn't get taken!
One of the first lines that made me understand the humor of the show from "Serenity". No one else seems to find this as funny as I do, being that it's tucked into a bigger section of dialogue: "I was gonna get me a ear, too." Adam just sells that line so well! I near on to die laughing every time... *sigh* What a geek.
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Edited to add:
The shooting script said "an" ear. I guess Adam decided it would be funnier to dumb it down a mite.
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My other favorite Jayne-ism from The Message was when Tracy suddenly wakes up screaming and knocks Simon out of the way, and Jayne says, "Spry for a dead fella!". Him just sitting there acting like it's the most normal thing in the world for a dead guy to come back to life makes that line a hundred times funnier.
I also loved in The Train Job when he's drugged out lying on the cargo bay stairs trying to talk out of the side of his mouth.
"Back? What do you mean back? I waited for you guys!"
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"I was aiming for his head."
"What y'all order a dead guy for?" - Jayne Cobb
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